Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A Long Time Ago on a Message Board now locked far far away...


Once upon a time I op'ed the original ship crew addition thread. It's been highlighted in the commonly proposed ideas, and had come up off and on again since, oh, beta.

Unfortunately my original idea went on to be used in something called Star Trek Online and neither I nor CCP got any credit for that. Bummer.

Anyway, I had several people mail me asking me to open a thread on the new forum for this subject. I'm really not going to rehash many of the ideas that have already come and gone, but rather throw the doors wide for new ideas on how this mechanic might function in game.

So, all you people into in game immersion, lets hear it from the streets.

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We already have plenty of things that do that though. This should provide greater immersion.

My old idea was that they worked rather like pets. They had their own skills that improved over time and gave a gradually increasing bonus depending on how long that crew had been in that ship, with different officers being able to be added to tweak them.

Presumably as it was more fitting to thr game style of STO so it had some relevance. Being disgruntled about CCP making a rational issue about what they develop and how they invest their time based on valued return is what makes buisnesses work. So if they didn't pick up the idea, I don't see why you should feel agrudged other than personal ego? Which seems what this comment and the title of the post is about, very encouraging and constructive.

Also if you intend to collect ideas from others and simply adopt them lazily into your own then it really isnt much of a "revenge" is it?

And considering you beat down the first suggestion with how you view things should work straight away, rather than an open forum as you indicated why don't you just propose how you view it to work rather than wasting everyone's time?

I would suggest placing a slot on all of the ships, much like a cargo/drone/fuel bay, but call it "Crew Quarters," and allow for specialized crew members (commodity items) to be placed in said bay, each giving a certain bonus type to one of the systems. Of course, the ship destruction would result in the death of the crew (or could result in them being dropped in an escape pod to be scooped by the ganker). But to level the playing field, so experienced crews wouldn't be a money-based thing, crew get better at their job (thus increasing bonuses) as the ship survives longer (based on flight time with each ship). If the crew is scooped by a ganker, they would be reset to base levels (as they'd be unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the new ship, and its individual quirks).

Also, if crew are sold, traded, etc, their stats would be reset to base levels. Ejecting prior to the ship being destroyed would save the crew, as they would eject in an escape pod which would be scoopable.

Each ship would only have a specific crew size for that class of ship, or specific hull type. And when docked, for those who enjoy CQ, they could interact with their NPC crew in the hangar. Another thing that would increase immersion would be an actual personal/Corp Hangar that pilots could walk around, being able to interact with their crew, or Corp mates who had access. A Corp Office/War Room wouldn't be too bad of an idea either. Allowing for people to plan battles while sitting around smoking and joking (in game). Thus allowing for emoting (smokers smoke, drinkers drink, angered individuals slam their fist on the table), stuff like that. Just a few ideas.

"1st Persons idea"



If that isn't smacking the door in someone's face about their idea's in preference of your own, well?

Ezio? Ezio Auditore, I thought you were dead.

The idea of a T2 crew sort of boggles the mind. What are they, Borg? :)

That said, I think having officer slots on a ship is an interesting one. Not sure how to fit it in without unbalancing current ships. One idea I had was that the officers could have skills better than your own, then officers could meet fitting requirements, etc. Also thought that officers could be used to introduce some limited automation -- for example, defense officer could automatically activate defensive modules & hardeners.

This takes place not in the future, but in the very far future. Ship crew has been long replaced by AI and computers.

Technically, not all of them. The smallest ones are piloted by the capsuleers alone. F.ex., the frigates (they were, iirc, conceived by the Caldari in Caldari-Gallente war as a one-man-piloted ship which is bigger than fighter but smaller than the cruiser), and i'm pretty sure shuttles do not have crew as well. Also fighters and fighter-bombers have crews (one pilot, each, and pilots can even be seen in fighter's mesh, like on a Templar).

Although the whole idea about crews is interesting. And i think CCP have mentioned the idea a couple of times during player gatherings, don't remember exact timings and words though.

That quote is merely a philosophy, we all know that computers can calculate many times faster than a human.

And the truth is machines are superior to humans in space because humans can't live in space and have emotions which we all know are a disadvantage in most cases, especially those which computers do. And tell me one event where computers are not able to deal with something that humans can that is relevant to EVE?