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Remove war in empire

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Gringo 2Forty
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-10-30 04:23:07 UTC
War in empire is totally useless unless ur a bitter player that cant make it to 0.0 that wanna kill newbies easily
at least rethink it
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-10-30 04:25:02 UTC
It may need some rework, but it has its uses.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-30 04:31:08 UTC
You're looking for the "one-line bad idea" thread.
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#4 - 2013-10-30 04:52:21 UTC
Are you one of the noobs on the receiving end of such activities?

That's about the only way I can rationalize this kind of thread other than some sort of esoteric troll attempt.
Sarah Stallman
Pen2 Logistics
#5 - 2013-10-30 07:21:31 UTC
High-sec would be boring without the occasional war. I mean, yeah, it's bad for business when it happens to me, but it's great for business when it happens to other people. Or at least it would be if I had time to actually play the game anymore, rather than just wander the F&I threads.
Atlantis Fuanan
Wormhole Research Inc.
#6 - 2013-10-30 07:26:57 UTC
Highsec Wars are in itself ok, it's just the people that wardec you often just look for the boring (you) targets. Add station games and people which are not interested in PVP and it becomes crap.
Actually I'm curious how wars will happen on Rubicon.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#7 - 2013-10-30 09:03:24 UTC
OP, you may want to delete this post.

Not only is it simply a one line whine, it will probably get you noticed by a Hi-Sec war decker.

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#8 - 2013-10-30 09:12:29 UTC
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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-10-30 09:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Gringo 2Forty wrote:
War in empire is totally useless unless ur a bitter player that cant make it to 0.0 that wanna kill newbies easily
at least rethink it



How about no? BTW you might just got a free wardec sample from us because of that. Need to check my walllet when i get home

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Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-10-30 09:47:25 UTC
Maybe it's a new and interesting way to annoy people/unbalance corps.

Get alt into high sec corp
Make whining thread about high sec wars on forums
??????
PROFIT!!
Sarah Stallman
Pen2 Logistics
#11 - 2013-10-30 10:11:05 UTC
Hmm... Forum whining to get free wars... Sounds just sick and insidious enough a capsuleer might try it.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-10-30 11:03:26 UTC
Gringo 2Forty wrote:
War in empire is totally useless unless ur a bitter player that cant make it to 0.0 that wanna kill newbies easily
at least rethink it


Post your lossmail.
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#13 - 2013-10-30 11:10:02 UTC
Well, war mechanics are a bit broken. It needs some DEV love.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-10-30 11:13:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
The problem with high-sec wardec

:- the aggressor playing peek-a-boo at a station, when they realise that an 'industry corp' is prepared to fight back

station gaming needs to go

the war-dec's can stay
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#15 - 2013-10-30 11:16:30 UTC
Atlantis Fuanan wrote:
Highsec Wars are in itself ok, it's just the people that wardec you often just look for the boring (you) targets. Add station games and people which are not interested in PVP and it becomes crap.
Actually I'm curious how wars will happen on Rubicon.


As having done highsec wars myself for a while I see this:

Merc alliances will conquer a couple of constellations and install POCOs everywhere to tax the moon goo. Anyone who doesn't want to pay the tax becomes a war target, obviously attacking other merc constellations follows on naturally from there as well.

Highsec becomes a defacto nullsec in a few ways except for CONCORD of course. Also - offline POS's and the inability to dec closed corps will need to be addressed. My suggestion would be rather than deleting them outright through some handwave fiat, they become blinky black (kill rights), your standard small control tower must cost 20mil to kill, etc etc and you only have 15 minutes to do it.

End result is organised groups will take some territory in highsec for the passive income as well as choke-hold tactics on enemies/neutrals in order to force capitulation or mutual aggression acts. Highsec wardeccing becomes self funded for those who take their industry and research capacity seriously.
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-10-30 12:22:51 UTC
Listen, i was a newbie once, now look at me, i know how to pvp.... like the average guy in eve anyways.
The problem is that people have the choice between 99% safe (NPC corps) and 50% safe (player corps) thats why high sec communities are not forming, the npc`s undercut what players can do, and offer impossible to match service.

The real way to solve this problem is by making it possible to war dec npc corps, but maybe keep a timer on how old of a character you can kill, per say under 2 months old cant be killed. Then you see, no one has to cry about war since its every where.
Gringo 2Forty
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-10-30 12:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Gringo 2Forty
No, I'm just stating what it is, never seen a legit war where u have even force warring each other, only thing you see is 2-3yrs old corp declaring on fresh new corp, I mean come on, war in itself is nice, but these are not "wars" by definition
and i moved away from highsec 4 months ago..
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-10-30 12:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: culo duro
Wars work as a massive isk sink.

Just because there's 90% merc corps in high sec of the ones that pvp, who decides to just play station games anyway, doesn't make it an unviable mechanic. :p

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-10-30 13:15:27 UTC
Looks like somebody jumped into Jita without scouting for wardecs.

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2013-10-30 13:28:26 UTC
I am locking this for being non-constructive and not offering any sort of idea.

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