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Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#141 - 2013-10-29 20:50:43 UTC
AWESOME JOB! Gratz! Way to Knock the RMTing Scum bags down a few Notches!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#142 - 2013-10-29 20:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Katarina Reid wrote:

Not sure if im allowed to link the letter given to resellers but it says to let Katarina give bonus isk with referrals until she cleans her wallet within 10 days, this way we can keep profiting from this fast GTC sales buck and then continue with Somer Blink RMT breaching the EULA alone.
Letter translated to english Blink
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#143 - 2013-10-29 22:43:12 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Katarina Reid wrote:

Not sure if im allowed to link the letter given to resellers but it says to let Katarina give bonus isk with referrals until she cleans her wallet within 10 days, this way we can keep profiting from this fast GTC sales buck and then continue with Somer Blink RMT breaching the EULA alone.
Letter translated to english Blink


What? Where?
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#144 - 2013-10-29 23:26:19 UTC
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#145 - 2013-10-29 23:50:18 UTC
So will any sellers anywhere be able to offer some sort of incentive for buying GTCs for higher cost than regular sub?

Cheapest options are just flat paying sub from paypal or credit card for $15/30days, or if you're spacerich then PLEX the account.
But at $20/30days on the GTCs..... who will pay that extra $5 instead of just $15 directly to CPP for the 30days? Makes no sense without something to be worth that extra $5 for the very same amount of time of sub.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#146 - 2013-10-30 00:46:57 UTC
Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:
AWESOME JOB! Gratz! Way to Knock the RMTing Scum bags down a few Notches!

Be careful: main RMTer in EVE is not a third party service.
YesYes NoNoNo
Karmic Rebalance
#147 - 2013-10-30 08:19:46 UTC
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)
Frying Doom
#148 - 2013-10-30 09:43:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)

FFS

Well the way is clear CCP need to give them 10 days like everyone else and as soon as they go 1 minute over, do them for RMT, strip their assets and close their accounts.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#149 - 2013-10-30 10:33:59 UTC
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affiliates, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


CCP Of course will Back SOMER. The Dev's have repeatedly Shown that they favor the Site over others. So while other sites Get knocked down from offering Bonus's Direct/indirectly Somer of Course Can run Unchallenged. Thats why DEV's have not jumped on this thread at all. Rather keep in the background instead of going with a honest across the board Business Model. No statement From CCP Guard or any of the Rest of them. Meanwhile other sites have been silently asked to stop offering Credits to there sites. Somer continues to run Free. After all Besides "Re-skinned Scorpions" and other Swag being offered in Bulk to SOMER, They can RMT Freely with CCP's permission it seems.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#150 - 2013-10-30 10:37:18 UTC
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#151 - 2013-10-30 10:41:12 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point


CCP sent a letter to the resellers(shattered crystal, markeedragon) .The letter said to stop the bonuses and if they are still doing it after 10 days they are in breech of the reseller agreement.
Frying Doom
#152 - 2013-10-30 11:07:09 UTC
Katarina Reid wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point


CCP sent a letter to the resellers(shattered crystal, markeedragon) .The letter said to stop the bonuses and if they are still doing it after 10 days they are in breech of the reseller agreement.

ETC + bonus items may not be direclty or indirectly traded by the buyer for isk.

Would seem to very much include Somer.

This will interesting to see what happens, if Somer does not shut off the bonus isk the player rage will make the last 3 weeks look like a warm up exercise.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#153 - 2013-10-30 11:40:13 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Katarina Reid wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point


CCP sent a letter to the resellers(shattered crystal, markeedragon) .The letter said to stop the bonuses and if they are still doing it after 10 days they are in breech of the reseller agreement.

ETC + bonus items may not be direclty or indirectly traded by the buyer for isk.

Would seem to very much include Somer.

This will interesting to see what happens, if Somer does not shut off the bonus isk the player rage will make the last 3 weeks look like a warm up exercise.

its up to markeedragon to stop somer using his affilate program
Frying Doom
#154 - 2013-10-30 12:05:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Katarina Reid wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Katarina Reid wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
YesYes NoNoNo wrote:
They don't seem to think so:

[ 2013.10.30 06:59:51 ] Andre Ox > Blake - CCP hasn't in any way asked us to stop. They're talking with the affilaites, the guys who actual do the sales, and trying to find a solution. But forum trolls to the contrary, they've not backed away from saying the credit was kosher at all :)


Ah, so somer are allowed to RMT in this fashion, but no one else is.

This game is in bloody tatters at this point


CCP sent a letter to the resellers(shattered crystal, markeedragon) .The letter said to stop the bonuses and if they are still doing it after 10 days they are in breech of the reseller agreement.

ETC + bonus items may not be direclty or indirectly traded by the buyer for isk.

Would seem to very much include Somer.

This will interesting to see what happens, if Somer does not shut off the bonus isk the player rage will make the last 3 weeks look like a warm up exercise.

its up to markeedragon to stop somer using his affilate program

Yes it is.
And it is CCPs job to deal with RMTers as they always have. After 10 days Somer will clearly be an RMTer (should markeedragon fail to act) by CCP otherwise they would not have sent this letter out.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#155 - 2013-10-30 14:12:27 UTC
What irritates me is if it is Deemed RMT Why is CCP going after the GTC Dealers and NOT The RMT'rs Like Somer accounts etc. Maybe then they should Destroy GTC Resellers and Eliminate Any possible means for RMTing. Instead of having to deal with Infractions here or There. Eliminate any cause possible. If Nox/mahm or any other RMT like Miners are getting off Free and the GTC dealers are being blamed itself, Why punish RMT players and just elliminate all the GTC Resellers.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#156 - 2013-10-30 14:35:44 UTC
Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:
What irritates me is if it is Deemed RMT Why is CCP going after the GTC Dealers and NOT The RMT'rs Like Somer accounts etc. Maybe then they should Destroy GTC Resellers and Eliminate Any possible means for RMTing. Instead of having to deal with Infractions here or There. Eliminate any cause possible. If Nox/mahm or any other RMT like Miners are getting off Free and the GTC dealers are being blamed itself, Why punish RMT players and just elliminate all the GTC Resellers.


Because if they do that they end up publicly eating ****. To officially endorse them, make grand claims about how trustworthy they are, to give them unique items to use as part of their business, to personally and directly reward the people who run it... and then to have to turn around and admit "oh actually they were RMTers and blatantly breaking the EULA"

hahaha could you imagine a company admitting that openly?

Nah, they'll try and pressure the sellers and quietly settle this, so as not to draw attention to their own incredible incompetence
Ace Boogi
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#157 - 2013-10-30 15:40:58 UTC
just waiting for this thread to be locked now for violating EULA Roll
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2013-10-30 16:35:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost Phius
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Because if they do that they end up publicly eating ****. To officially endorse them, make grand claims about how trustworthy they are, to give them unique items to use as part of their business, to personally and directly reward the people who run it... and then to have to turn around and admit "oh actually they were RMTers and blatantly breaking the EULA"

hahaha could you imagine a company admitting that openly?

Nah, they'll try and pressure the sellers and quietly settle this, so as not to draw attention to their own incredible incompetence



Well that seems incredibly stupid since everyone already knows they played favorites, actively participated and financially profited from RMT and have been doing so for years.

The King has no pants on and everyone knows it....yeah the King knows it too, but is strutting around the room in full view hoping nobody has the balls to say something....Well that FAILED ROYALLY.
Frying Doom
#159 - 2013-10-30 21:03:51 UTC
I must admit I think CCP has gone for the Somer can do it but no one else can path.Sad

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
#160 - 2013-10-31 01:17:53 UTC
I admit that sounds like a cure for Eve AIDS aka Somer Blink.

Unfortunately CCP has been so auto-immune deficient towards Somer, not even your effort will be able to cure it.