Player Features and Ideas Discussion

the suggestion of ROF is pretty nice, as someone mentioned, but the explo radius is cool too, but damage one could be used as well... either will be better than TP and golem pilots will appreciate whichever you choose if you change it.

Not sure where these are going now.

I will re iterate my earlier post.

They will not realistically be used for incursions, they will be out competed by proper set up gangs, if you think you have designed a ship that can do incursions in very small numbers you have broken its group gameplay.

You yourself suggest you wish to limit fleet usage although I am unsure why.

They will see usage in anoms maybe C3 wormholes but they mainly seem set up for farming level 4 missions.

Kronos could probably do any mission with bastion, a good repper and a T2 explosive rig. Everything else goes on damage and projection. The bastion range bonus then does very little as it stacks last. It is just an emergency tank button that makes it completely immune to any attempt to create challenging gameplay due to it's tank level and E-war immunity.

My question is a fine detail on drones. If we deploy drones before entering bastion mode; will the drones still work/fight when we enter bastion mode?

It also makes Vargur a sitting target practice for any roam to come by if it's farming anomalies. And their strong point were usually ACs, arty fit is quite meh.

As it stands: T2 ships have a specific role and can outshoot their t1 counterparts and mostly even their faction variants.

What do we have with Maradeurs with proposed balance?: We get an outmatched ship with outdated bonuses, without a distinguished role.

What do we have from a player perspective?: Cause of the capital skill tree remade we get a ship unworthy the train time and isk without that much of a necessary role it pvp/pve fleets. You can still get even a cheaper faction BS or a little bit more expensive pirate BS which will both perform better (in most of the cases) in pvp and pve. The bastion mode also makes them pretty much useless in null/low pve, because 60 sec sitting target for that kind of area is not entirely good.

Imo: Maradeurs need to get their outdated bonuses sorted out and to get an overall hull buff first. Getting a role for them is interesting, but it won't sort out anything and still leaves maradeurs very situational and doesn't make them worth the training time/isk.

Again I feel like I need to say something here. Again its because if I don't and you ruin this ship I'll at least have tried. After finishing writing this and reading it I realize it’s aggressive… but I don't have time to rewrite it so I apologize. Please try and understand its passion and frustration fueling it.

STOP TRYING TO BREAK STUFF.
At this point I am starting to think you guys are breaking these ships because you are suffering from some psychological condition. It seems like you guys just want to "smash the sand castle."

You want to add a new mode, which for me is going to be near to totally useless, do it without breaking the Kronos. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE KRONOS!!! Please leave the normal mode alone.

First and for most is the one things I've seen you guys say isn't useful, the web bonus. I use it A LOT. Constantly while running missions. There is no reason for me to go jumping all over the grid. I don't want to. It’s a waste of time. Ever mission I run with the Kronos the web is nearly always on. Any assumption that it isn't important or useful is flat out wrong. There is A LOT of people who agree and have said as mush. CCP you need to realize you are the ones who are in error. Get over it and put it back.

Speed. Again there is no justifiable reason to decrease the speed. It allows the ship to get around the large lvl 4 grids in a reasonable amount of time. There is no reason to make traveling around painfully slow. Again, CCP you are in error. Get over it and put it back.

Tanking. Nothing wrong with current numbers. No reason to change it. If it isn't broken don't fix it!

You guys want to reduce mass, add slots, add another bonus for MJD's go for it. I don't care. But if you think you need to destroy an entire class of ships to do so, then I say you need to reevaluate your stance, listen to the payer base in this 300 plus page thread and come correct.

I played this game for nearly 3 years straight. I stopped playing for about a year and half because CCP didn't add anything of game play value for a portion of those years. I realize saying that I'll stop paying is going to be met with shrugs and trolls, but there it is. It’s the only leverage any of use really have. Might take another few years or longer, maybe never before I'll return.


TL:DR: If CCP breaks this class of ships because of their false assumptions I'll unsub my 3 accounts.

Use the Vindicator. Same webs, more damage, more armour hp, more fitting room, faster, can deploy a full set of sentries/heavies, much better sensor strength. It outclasses the old kronos in every way for what you are using it for.

Or you can use the new kronos, fit a two or three slot tank, use the extra room for more tracking or damage mods, have your blasters reach out to NPC orbit range and just use your drones to take out the frigates you don't squash as they charge at you.

Why are you MJD'ing in a straight line away from the gate? Nothing's stopping you prescribing a triangle, square, or whatever other kind of maneuver you want to keep the gate within a one jump range...

Agreed, I thought it was gonna be difficult working with MJD in missions.
However, after using it, I feel it's actually really simple and very effective..

To me its more of a hassle than its worth. I still use T2's which I really shouldn't be. When I use drones the ships always target the same one till its dead. For instance when I first launch they all focus fire on one. it takes a little damage I pull them in wait for the ships to agro me again then launch drones. The same drone that was damaged is always retargeted and the rest ignored until its dead. Then they target a new one and the cycle continues.

All I am saying is its not very practical to keep pull them in and launching. Its much easier for me to web the frigs and move towards them slowly and kill them with a single volley from my Kronos. While the weber is slowing them down I simply attack larger ships until I can one shot them. Take away the 90% weber and it become mush harder. I tried the same method when I was flying a Hyperion and mega.

This gentleman would like to enquire as to what you are smoking or if you have just not bothered to actually test bastion on the test server. my guess would be the latter as I wouldnt like to assume mind altering substance abuse.

First of, with base sensor changes and a single sebo I'm locking frigs in under 9 seconds. so far in 95% of the time Ive popped eve frig that has auto agressed in any mission and have popped 100% of every frig that hasent. the 5% ive killed with my light drones and not got a single one shot at.

Your example of mjd usage is... not so good.

plainly speaking, you sir are doing it very very wrong. please test on sissi so your future posts are not tainted by ignorance.