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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#101 - 2013-10-15 16:33:58 UTC
Raxlaa wrote:



So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.


Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together.

Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above Cool.

More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor").

Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).
Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#102 - 2013-10-15 16:36:55 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).


This. So much this.

Also - cool name.

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

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Molica Iwaira
Perkone
Caldari State
#103 - 2013-10-15 16:55:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Molica Iwaira
Jenn aSide wrote:
Raxlaa wrote:



So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.


Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together.

Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above Cool.

More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor").

Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).



Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?

Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#104 - 2013-10-15 17:01:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Psyrus Baine wrote:
HERE is the point once Again. TO all of those I have flown with in the past and know me now know why I haven't been around playing.

I was going to play again just to hang with some old friends and to those I might have had the pleasure of fighting and playing with again you know why I might not be back around for awhile,

I don't have the strength to grind to replace my stuff again. I cant afford to buy plex cards and sell them either because when your stuck in a bed for months on end its kinda hard to hold a job. Even a masters degree cant help generate income when your throwing up and stuck in a hospital.

To those that cant understand the above then I dont care what you think or post anymore I was not posting for you but to the people that actually remember me.


Bro, my feels go out to you however... EDIT... what are you doing?

I do hope you have a fast recovery though! Best of luck mate

Thank me later :D
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#105 - 2013-10-15 17:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Molica Iwaira wrote:



Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected


Please point out where I said he wouldn't be emotionally unaffected. I never said anything of the sort, nor do i care.

I'm saying that the OPs decision to play this type of game (and then get butt hurt about the consequences of his own totally voluntary choices)) was wrong.

EVE isn't really a "kick back and relax" game, it's a "crap here comes more online peopel trying to screw with me" game. Playing EVE online in an attempt to "get away" from real life trouble is the same thing as setting yourself on fire for warmth because it's cold outside and your heater stopped working.




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....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?


If he is indeed sick, i feel sorry for him. That has no bearing on how anyone plays a video game. Last year I lost a close friend to cancer (he was my 1st shift partner, we went to the academy together, he literally saved my life once). I was in NCdot at the time,I guess I should have come onto the forums and told Goons to give Tribute back because I wasn't fully focused.......

Quote:

Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! Yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts... and any bit of reason too.


People like you amaze me, and not for any good reasons.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#106 - 2013-10-15 17:04:19 UTC
Kimsemus wrote:
Psyrus Baine wrote:
You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .

I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.

There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.


Hello everyone -- I am the FC that organized this drop on him, with invaluable help from one of my corpmates that will remain anon.

OP -- I don't regret killing you. At all.

I don't regret organizing your cynos, I don't regret organizing the pilots that hot dropped you, I don't regret calling your archon then your thanatos then popping your wrecks.

I don't regret it because it's not personal, it's just business.

When you were talking in random channels asking for cynos from people you didn't know, I knew you had to pop. When we lit your cyno in the wrong system, in Asa instead of Hasateem you jumped anyway, without questioning it. When you jumped your Archon in a full 30 seconds before your Thanatos into 15 hostile carriers who IMMEDIATELY tackled and began killing you, you jumped your Thanatos in anyway.

None of us lied to you, cheated you, or did anything uncouth. You simply asked for a cyno, we gave you one. You just got more than you planned.

IF you are sick IRL, I hope you get better, make a full recovery, and live life to the fullest. IF you are sick then we did you a favor -- get off EVE, get out from the front of the PC, spend time with loved ones, or out in the sun, and all that.

IF you aren't actually sick -- shame on you. I really don't think you are. I don't want to come off as rude, but I actually think you were just careless and lazy. If you want to try and sit on the forums and take the **** out of me for killing you, feel free. But I didn't kill you, I didn't kill a guy with cancer, I didn't kick your dog or break into your kitchen and eat the chocolate out of your Neapolitan ice cream. I killed your carriers, on your toon, in EVE. Remember that.

But either way I don't feel one ounce of guilt over what I did, and I take full responsibility for it. As I said before. It's just business man.

o7

Battle report for reference: https://killboard.ncdot.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=320519
Youtube video by Apollo: http://youtu.be/b7CCZuSWSyk


slowclap! insert explozioms montage HERE

Thank me later :D
Molica Iwaira
Perkone
Caldari State
#107 - 2013-10-15 17:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Molica Iwaira
Jenn aSide wrote:
Molica Iwaira wrote:



Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected


Please point out where I said he wouldn't be emotionally unaffected. I never said anything of the sort, nor do i care.

I'm saying that the OPs decision to play this type of game (and then get butt hurt about the consequences of his on totally voluntary choices)) was wrong.

EVE isn't really a "kick back and relax" game, it's a "crap here comes more online peopel trying to screw with me" game. Playing EVE online in an attempt to "get away" from real life trouble is the same thing as setting yourself on fire for warmth because it's cold outside and your heater stopped working.

I am sure, having characters above 140m sp and having played for many years, he should be most grateful to have this very helpful notification and edification about this game. So am I!

....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?


If he is indeed sick, i feel sorry for him. That has no bearing on how anyone plays a video game. Last year I lost a close friend to cancer (he was my 1st shift partner, we went to the academy together, he literally saved my life once). I was in NCdot at the time,I guess I should have come onto the forums and told Goons to give Tribute back because I wasn't fully focused.......

[quote]

Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#108 - 2013-10-15 17:16:40 UTC
thats why I play solo in this game, I'm a bit low on cash but thought to send you a million right away... your story sounded honest

looks like northern coalition are just the same douchebags as the other big alliances out there... hope you make it back and get your revenge

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2013-10-15 17:16:47 UTC
Molica Iwaira wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Raxlaa wrote:



So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.


Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together.

Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above Cool.

More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor").

Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).



Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?

Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts.


Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?

Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2013-10-15 17:20:29 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame.

You'll change your mind if you ever get it.

No I wont.

It would really suck if I ever get cancer, but why should this change how other people treat me on EVE?

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#111 - 2013-10-15 17:21:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Quote:
Molica Iwaira wrote:


I am sure, having characters above 140m sp and having played for many years, he should be most grateful to have this very helpful notification and edification about this game. So am I![=;/quote]

As you should be. You're welcome


Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt.


Some people's posts deserve "sarcasm, mockery and contempt", because they are contemptible.

In this case, a player posted a crazy screed because he lost 2 internet spaceships and some junk, and we're supposed to feel sorry for him (and his attackers are supposed to feel bad) because of some real life situation that has ZERO to do with anything.

A few days ago, another dude posted some similar nonsense because he was some kind of American military service veteran (which means he's just supposed to get his way in a video game made by and Icelandic company lol). It was equally dumb.

People trying to find some kind of way to leverage real life hardship into in game sympathy of some sort is so far beyond pitiful there isn't yet an English word for it. Well there wasn't till now.

So remember kids, don't do a Psyrus Baine.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#112 - 2013-10-15 17:24:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?



omg noob, don't you know that the ship scanner in EVE is so powerful that it can tell if you have cancer, acne, body odor and/or bad credit in real life? Obviously NCdot shoulda scanned the dude before shooting.

Lol
Molica Iwaira
Perkone
Caldari State
#113 - 2013-10-15 17:25:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Molica Iwaira wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Raxlaa wrote:



So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.


Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together.

Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above Cool.

More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor").

Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).



Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?

Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts.


Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?

Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in.



No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#114 - 2013-10-15 17:25:36 UTC
Another utterly bizarre thread; the EVE forums never disappoint, do they?

I, for one, believe that OP has cancer or at least something else very serious going on IRL. Something about his behavior in the entire affair strikes me as someone not quite all there, and I say that not sarcastically. I really feel for the guy. But at the same time, EVE is still EVE and the boys from NCdot did absolutely nothing wrong. They were handed two loot-pinata carriers on a silver platter and they accepted the gift.

I'm sure it wasn't fun for the OP to see, and it may have hurt his feelings, but no matter how ill he may, there are no real-life ramifications. It's a game, nothing more.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2013-10-15 17:26:50 UTC
Molica Iwaira wrote:


Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt.


It was indeed, because his problem wasn't with anyone else but the people who tricked him and destroyed his carriers. But still, he felt the need to jump on the forums and make out as if everyone on this game is just as bad as everyone else, or that their in-game behaviour somehow reflects on their real-life personality, and attempt to guilt trip his assailants, publicly, with his cancer card. Now, I'm actually giving him the benefit of the doubt with his cancer. I believe him when he says he has it, but in fact, it doesn't matter whether I believe him or not, because unlike others, I'm not sorry he has it, but nor am I glad he has it. I'm indifferent, no feelings on the issue at all - as mentioned earlier, I am an actual sociopath and really don't have any feelings over it. In a way, that gives me a more objective viewpoint on the issue as well. I don't feel any guilt or shame at not being sympathetic towards his condition, but nor do I feel any spite towards him.

But it's basically got nothing to do with anyone else here. At the end of the day, his problem turned out to be with one group of individuals, not the entire population of GD or EVE. The reason he was met with sarcasm, mockery and contempt was because of the way he went about venting, not the vent itself. The biggest mistake he actually made was actually logging on to EVE without taking the precautions against what happened to him. If his judgement was impaired, then his mistake was logging on to EVE at all, and he damn well knows it.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2013-10-15 17:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Molica Iwaira wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?

Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in.



No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?


I was responding to you, not him. If he takes offence at my comments directed towards you, that is entirely his problem and not my intention or fault. You've had a few things to say on this thread. Do you really expect no one to respond? On that note, he posted this thread on a public forum. It has not been locked. Many other people around here are still going to have something to say.

How are we supposed to know he's really hurt? And why should it matter if the issue is made public and therefore subject to public commentary by the OP himself?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#117 - 2013-10-15 17:31:07 UTC
Molica Iwaira wrote:



No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?


If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place.

You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong.
Anslo
Scope Works
#118 - 2013-10-15 17:47:08 UTC
And you sound like a broken record. Can you contribute anything BUT blaming others for being 'enablers' or 'entitled?'

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2013-10-15 17:50:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Anslo wrote:
And you sound like a broken record. Can you contribute anything BUT blaming others for being 'enablers' or 'entitled?'


It's annoying, to be sure, but can you actually present an argument that demonstrates he's made a mistake and that he's wrong in this case or are you just going to point out what you perceive as flaws in his word usage? Also, point out the part where he explicitly or implicitly blames anyone. Then try to learn the difference between fault and blame.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Molica Iwaira
Perkone
Caldari State
#120 - 2013-10-15 17:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Molica Iwaira
Jenn aSide wrote:
Molica Iwaira wrote:



No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?


If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place.

You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong.



NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.