Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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I am now sure that with "new marauders", people want to snipe in an immobile platform, given so called ewar immunity (nos?), and be able to repair close to half of their shield/armor with one asb pass.

Well, this is NOT something new for pve, counting my dejavu feeling for any other arty platform or sniper drone ship!

For pvp, yes, it is new, now people will have a chance to hunt sitting ducks :P

Edit: I feel somebody will jump on me saying "ffs you don't have to use bastion in pvp, ur idiot". So again, what was the new idea that seems interesting and new, may I ask?

No offense, but what you wrote up sounds more like a "turn my marauder into a slow machariel" button...

I'd just buy a mach if I wanted one.

Well, I don't have 3 accounts, so one marauder will have to do for me.

Or Rattlesnake or Raven or Hyperion or Rokh or Drake or etc. etc.

What I want to say is, with all that stuff, bastion mod, MJD recharge Bonus, etc.

The new marauders really will be unique as battleship size vessels, while all the the other stuff already exists I for my part do not need yet another ship that's just like all the others out there.

Granted, there were other ways to accomplish that, but I still think the current iteration is a good solution.

"New Marauders"

Where?

There are no new Marauders. Actually the last idea of Joe Risalo, which I also agree with is really about "new marauders".
This is the thread of current marauders, and about re-balancing them. Re-balance means they're out-balanced in time, their stats need some work in order to keep up with the game. This is not necessarily about a new ship.

What design team did is that they just put a module that transforms you. People have been using Marauders for pve missions, and their current ship is getting a nerf without transformation. What I suggest is a re-balance proposal, not a new ship or module. That was my point of view.

But then, Debora Tsung kindly said that what I proposed was simply a slow mach, which was indeed close. I failed to propose the right thing, but again, that didn't also justify the new design brings something enjoying in the arsenal.

I mean I have to jump-sit-jump-sit during missions from now on :( I really wanted to clash my shield into enemies' hull.
I want to hear the scream of my shields when being low, I want to fight in a way that I've been fighting so far without getting nerfed!
I want to fight like: http://youtu.be/MXcLybhbChQ

That has been my enjoyment so far :P, now I will have to snipe in order to maintain isk/hour... :(

It would be cool if I can adjust how further I jump. Unfortunately, you'll mostly fall behind the enemy, sometimes much far away. Even if I jump right into them, since my ship got nerfed, I will get more damage on my little lesser hull, I have to reduce risk by pushin saveMeButton, which will immobilize me :(

This will reduce the enjoyment of being actively manuavering between enemy hulls. Sitting is simply boring. And I haven't been sitting so far with my Marauder. So, I am not proposing something that have never been here. I just want to move! Ofc without getting nerfed.

because neuts have always been immune to ewar immunity. Same as in Dreads in siege , Moms, Titans etc...

I disagree they can fit nicely into some armour doctrines in low sec and would be a good replacement for faction BS gangs - you don't need to use bastion (though i'd still fit it and use it on occasions) and these ships can provide a good defence vs dread drops. while still dealing enough DPS across the field.

In 0.0 they would need to find a new doctrine - but i doubt they will be used.

People who plan on taking on the high sec Pvp that will come with POCO ownership will probably fly the shield versions in small active tanked fits vs un-organised foes as it may allow them to use a much smaller fleet and bait these people into a fight they would not normally do.

These are nice, but would make them too OP. Perhaps some variations on them.

• Agreed on the non-stacking range bonus. Stacking barely gives me 8km extra range from my 1400 vargur and 20km falloff...
• Scan res is fine, perhaps a 15% increase, the more the merrier but wouldn't suffer that much about it
• This is a huge issue, locking range. As snipers, locking is important. 100km is just not enough without a SeBo, and ReSeBos won't work as they're RA immune.
• Don't know about torps, can't comment.
• Massive reduction to neuting, based on the Bastion skill, or improve the cap recharge based on the same skill. 15% per level reduction of neuts/nos effects per level (max 75%). (These ships are TOO reliant on cap to be this vulnerable)
• Agreed, dronebays are ridiculously small.
• The Vargur is already moving at 125m/s, I'll take that, but agility is a pain.
• Marauders warp faster than battleships (2.25 vs 2 AU), this will be a pain for all.
• Agreed. Need buffer, anti-ganking measure while out of Bastion.
• T2 ships have 2 rig slots, due to their resits (knock knock, give us native T2 resists). However, I would support +1 low slot for ST and +1 midslot for AT marauders, giving them either better utility or better damage application.
• Neutral towards the tractor bonus...no idea what else to put instead.
• This would be cool. Perhaps wrap it around the marauder skill, like the Strategic Cruiser skills, and reduce overheating damage 12.5% per level.

Main issue for a mission runner is a ganker. While bastioned, they can warp in, sit there, get optimals, choose proper ammunition, and just wait for Bastion to end, open fire, pop goes the marauder. As we're immobile already, sitting ducks or easy targets waiting to be shot down.

They can work very well with none-triage carrier reps, because of their range they are able to stay on the carriers and still deal good dps so they can use the refitting service, in order to boost your tank while you field your ships to counter the dreads, or to boost DPS, change utility slots, combine with a couple proteus a loki and you have a good fleet, the paladin is especially good at this when you fit with tachs.