Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Pretty sure the Mach is next in line for the nerf bat...

Which makes the whining all the sweeter.
The funny thing is that ccp are effectively filling the marauders mouths full of chocolate and doing lovely things to their bottom halves.

Can't wait

Yeah, but we'll get another year of OP enjoyment out of our T3s until then.

Let me summerize the comparison for you;

- Mobility is nerfed, therefore mobile playstyle takes more damage. In order to fly the same route, you've to spend more time.

- I somewhat felt my shields were dropping *a little* faster than it does, I don't know why, maybe because I couldn't fit any faction mods, but I just felt a little lower survivability. Not much, but little sits there. Something simply wasn't right.

- I forgot what they changed on last iteration, but I think I locked on to frigates faster than TQ. More sig resolution?

- MJD usage is set as a bonus. Whenever I hear a guy talking about pvp, the bastion mode "may" have some usages in pvp, but they wouldn't do it with this price line since bastion mode literally means a suicide. So, bastion mode is something suits for pve. It is not told explicitly, but the effectiveness for this ship is slided by devs from mobile gameplay to "jump and hit bastion" gameplay. Some find this ok (to be fair, I found it appealing before testing it). But I found it no different than playing with a drone sniper ship! Boriiiing :(

- Powergrid is boosted. I can fit 1400MMs! Yay! Looked nice at first glance on the paper, but in practice, I found it slowed my mission time greatly. (tested)

- Warp mechanics changed, so it takes more time to go where I need to go with a marauder. This is not first thing to criticize, but in the end, adding this to the nerfed speed means more time is needed to finish a mission, causing less pve effectiveness.

I'm extremely sleepy right now, I had two-three more stuff on my head, but I can't recall them right now. I will mention those, when I remember them.

Price means very little and its far from suicide.

Thats a point.

Not even sure if they have the BPO out yet so 100 isk right now

No no that was aimed at Arthur as he was asking about the module.

He was quoting me saying to you that the ship cost isn't an issue when it comes to using it. 1 bil isn't a lot these days.

After extensive testing I have come up with a few suggestions for bastion mode. (and some waffle)

If you can’t be CAP assisted you should not be able to be CAP NEWT’ed. The Paladin and Kronos are so vulnerable to newt in bastion mode even with cap boosters their main advantage aka Armor rep is taken away. That’s a bigggg gap in usability.

Good tank on the Vargur plus tracking and the fact it can shoot without cap makes it pretty balanced (not great) at both PvP and PVE. Golem is PvE all the way as I cake walked 2 level 5 missions at LV 4 speeds I can’t impress how hard the ASB tank is to crack with that big cargo.

I feel in a PvP sense the ships all need a fear of approach while in bastion mode. Without a deterrent to other ships for getting too close you are technically tackling yourself.

As you see reds fill local,
your trousers fill with a sticky poo,
may as well make a cup of tea, as let’s face it,
you dead.

Granted you need to be a retardant to bastion on a belt (or whatever) in null but why should all the war deccing highsec Jita camping superhero's get to use all the good PvP sub caps? With the titan nerf on the way! Meh its freighter wars.

In PvP tests I found ECM bursts handy with MJD tacklers so a strength bonus to ECM burst would make it pretty handy and more used. While I think BIG damage Bonus to Smartbombs would help balance immobility. Like a 250% range and damage bonus while in bastion mode. A ship that can’t move with tiny DPS, crap tracking demands a kick ass counter measure to deter frigs and cruisers from simply shooting your MASSIVE supply of drones and waiting until you disengage bastion. MJD isn’t helpful once bastion has been engaged on the kronos or paladin.

While in Bastion.
Paladin – 800% effectiveness of NEWT/NOS effects of CAP Batteries.
Kronos – 400% bonus to weapon tracking and 100% bonus to cap boosters.
Golem – 250% bonus to range and ECM burst strength.
Vargur – 250% range and damage bonus of smartbombs.

Or use scripts.

Every single BS right now can be used in PvE bar maybe the scorpion. Why so much focus on shooting rats?

Neut/Nos is technically Ewar so it should be covered by the Ewar immunity of the bastion module