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is GTC scamming allowed or not?

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Yummy Yummy Yummy
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-09 17:20:40 UTC
In short SOMER BLINK offered credit of isk towards site for GTC's bought off markee.

I did as it instructed, Andrev Nox then banned me form site and did NOT honor the deal.

I complained on forums, got locked by ISD. was told to petition it since any GTC scams are very strictly forbidding by ccp

I petitioned, a GM said in short since NO RULES WERE broken i should try and contact somer blink managers myself..


IF Anyone else did any sort of GTC scams, I know for fact they either will get banned or isk forced out....

Seems its OK for SOMERblink to..

Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2013-10-09 17:22:20 UTC
Ask for your petition to be escalated, I think they're all back from the Somer sponsored vacation the company was on.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-09 17:23:44 UTC
How is it a scam? Did you lose the GTC? Did you lose isk in game? Did you lose real money?
Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-10-09 17:23:45 UTC
Butthurt Goon ALT detected!

Just because you didn't get your way...again with your crusade against SOMER doesn't mean you can spread false claims!

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

Yummy Yummy Yummy
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-10-09 17:26:16 UTC
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
Butthurt Goon ALT detected!

Just because you didn't get your way...again with your crusade against SOMER doesn't mean you can spread false claims!


false really?

dude its real and im not goon lol
Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-10-09 17:27:33 UTC
Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
Butthurt Goon ALT detected!

Just because you didn't get your way...again with your crusade against SOMER doesn't mean you can spread false claims!


false really?

dude its real and im not goon lol

Prove it?

If not, false claim.

IB4L

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-10-09 17:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
GTC? No. The only legal way to trade GTCs is through the bazaar, where no scamming allowed. Buying GTCs from a retailer is covered by standard e-retail laws.
PLEX? Yes. They're in-game items like any other, and subject to the same (lack of) rules.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-09 17:38:19 UTC
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
Butthurt Goon ALT detected!

Just because you didn't get your way...again with your crusade against SOMER doesn't mean you can spread false claims!


false really?

dude its real and im not goon lol

Prove it?

If not, false claim.

IB4L


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Rengerel en Distel
#9 - 2013-10-09 17:53:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
GTC? No. The only legal way to trade GTCs is through the bazaar, where no scamming allowed. Buying GTCs from a retailer is covered by standard e-retail laws.
PLEX? Yes. They're in-game items like any other, and subject to the same (lack of) rules.


Well, CCP has vouched for them saying they're totally legit, so if the OP bought a GTC and didn't receive the Blink Credits, and/or is banned from using them after purchasing, that seems like a scam. CCP has stated everyone can use Blink, so Blink banning people is contrary to what CCP has stated.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-10-09 17:57:11 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Tippia wrote:
GTC? No. The only legal way to trade GTCs is through the bazaar, where no scamming allowed. Buying GTCs from a retailer is covered by standard e-retail laws.
PLEX? Yes. They're in-game items like any other, and subject to the same (lack of) rules.

Well, CCP has vouched for them saying they're totally legit, so if the OP bought a GTC and didn't receive the Blink Credits, and/or is banned from using them after purchasing, that seems like a scam. CCP has stated everyone can use Blink, so Blink banning people is contrary to what CCP has stated.

More relevantly, he was “scammed” out of his Blink credit, not the GTC.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2013-10-09 17:59:51 UTC
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:

Prove it?

If not, false claim.

IB4L


What are you, 12 years old?

Katrina Oniseki

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#12 - 2013-10-09 18:04:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
And why did you get banned from Blink in the first place ?

Also, I remind everybody here that Blink is gaining real money from any PLEX sales done through their own link. That's effectively RMT since they offer isks in return.
Just for the record.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-09 18:15:35 UTC
Such crime, much scame. wow.

Dodixie > Hek

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#14 - 2013-10-09 18:17:52 UTC
A scammer got scammed you say?

Color me shocked, and thanks for the tears.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#15 - 2013-10-09 18:25:58 UTC
1) Why did you get banned? You must have done something against their rules. Did you insult someone? Did you have multiple accounts?
2) You had your gtc, so how did you get scammed? You just didn't get what they said you might have got. Probably due to you being rude and offensive (see question 1)

Also as a side note, not RMT or other services that offer the same thing giving credit in their system . Hey you could technically say that EVE Radio is RMT for people who sub and then win competitions that have isk. Please grow up.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#16 - 2013-10-09 19:02:20 UTC
Simple solution, they obviously don't want nor need your money, so don't give it to them.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-10-09 19:09:20 UTC
Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:
Butthurt Goon ALT detected!

Just because you didn't get your way...again with your crusade against SOMER doesn't mean you can spread false claims!


Hahaha, I love your posts, reading them is like watching a really angry monkey having a tantrum in its cage. So mad at goons! So mad! Grr goons!
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-10-09 19:10:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
More relevantly, he was “scammed” out of his Blink credit, not the GTC.

Not really, if I convince you to pay the standard goonswarm security deposit to get into goonswarm, it is generally understood I scammed you out of your money not your spot in goonswarm.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#19 - 2013-10-09 19:14:32 UTC
So you got yourself banned and now you're upset?

That's worth a thread.

It seems some weeks in this place are worse than others and this one is shaping up to be a record.

Mr Epeen Cool
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#20 - 2013-10-09 19:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:
In short SOMER BLINK offered credit of isk towards site for GTC's bought off markee.

I did as it instructed, Andrev Nox then banned me form site and did NOT honor the deal.

I complained on forums, got locked by ISD. was told to petition it since any GTC scams are very strictly forbidding by ccp

I petitioned, a GM said in short since NO RULES WERE broken i should try and contact somer blink managers myself..


IF Anyone else did any sort of GTC scams, I know for fact they either will get banned or isk forced out....

Seems its OK for SOMERblink to..



Aren't you the guy that got banned, then unbanned and immediately after dropped 20bil isk into SOMER?

lol
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