Player Features and Ideas Discussion

My notes on Maruaders using 1st version (ie resistance in bastion, +37.5% repair/boost)

Tested using short ranged weapons and long ranged weapons.
Break point does not include bastion mode.

Golem 1040 dps 27km Torp
Golem 768 dps 177km Cruise
Break point 27km (in bastion mode and one large rocket fuel cache partition I rig for Torp)

Paladin 564 dps 26-42km pulse to 235 dps 85-100km pulse
Paladin 520 dps Optimal 58km fallout 96... to 220dps 188-226km.. Beam
Break point 25km

Kronos 642 dps 6-40km to 320 dps 17-51km blaster
Kronos 488 dps 46-115km to 244 dps 131-199km Rails
Break point 22km

Vargur 556 dps 4-68km to 230 dps 13-78 km
Vargur 430 dps 38-138km to 178 dps 124-224 km
Break point 38km

So 2 ways to use.
Long ranged weapons and use bastion mode for the increased ranged.
Short ranged weapons using the MJD to jump out at an angle and then jumping back in to land on top of target. Bastion mode used for tanking and when you have enough targets in range that you do not have to chase them.

Long range.
Pro: less cap used for repairs. Once in place able to keep applying DPS constantly. Easier to hit small frigates at 100km as they burn right at you (no transversal velocity) easier to keep situational awareness
Con less DPS on paper. Long lock times at that range. 3 slots mid (MJD. Targeting Computer, Sensor Booster)

Short Range.
Pro: pew pew (ie more action than picking targets at range), Cap recharges during the 50secs between double jump, higher DPS during engagement
Con: not firing during the 50s in the middle of a double jump. Several NPC ships will move away as soon as you land and all move toward you when you jump out. 3-4 slots mid (MJD. Targeting computer(or target painter), afterburner to try and keep NPC in range). Short optimal range on paper (but the break point between when the short range weapons out damage the long range weapons is 22-38km) you have to pull out and figure out which way to jump to try and adjust range. Easier to lose situational awareness.

Easiest way to do a double jump. pull out bring up the tactical display and jump from 70-90 degrees, then use the 50s to fly away or toward the target to get range closer to 100km. align and jump on target. with a double jump you should land anywhere from 0 to 200km away from you in any direction in 50 secs.




Target


1st MJD target


You

Looking at v2
Resistance on ship and not bastion mode will help with the close in weapons during maneuver phase (but may take another slot for hardener. Web bonus will help short range ships by stopping the ship from getting away and making it easier to take out small targets. Web bonus will help long range ships as well if a ship gets inside 10km by making it easier to track that ship.

So with my skills and the way I fly. both short and long range weapons are viable.

So what's the consensus on the latest Marauder iteration? Yay or nay?

that's a flat out LIE.

I've flown the Golem on live and test, with and without ewar.

Bastion Golem outperforms by leaps and bounds.

From what i read through the last posts

Paladin yay - quite good with optimal range buff
Golem Cyay Tnay - cruise increase in range yay, but why? Torps suck bigtime
kronos y-n-ay - big loss of applicable DPS through missing sentries
vargur nay - loss of applicable DPS through speed nerf and missing advantage within bastion

So, all in all it's about 50-50.
Meaning, they're half way there with bastion...

bastion golem works for me
with only 2 adaptive invur and 1 x-l sheild booster, i can tank missions without problems (with bastion)

now i get 4 mid slots free to play around

using 3 x tp and 1 web or 4 tp
only a few missions need mjd or mwd i can easily trade out a mid for it


only got skills to use t2 cruise on test server so havnt tried torps yet
I use 2 x velocity rigs and with the bastion bonus, the missiles seem to hit instantly even at 50km plus I think none of the missiles got shot down by defenders when bastion is on, but its hard to tell.

i think bastions mode works well on golem not sure about gunboats because their dps depend on transverse and being stationary is bad .

[quote=marVLs][quote=Joe Risalo]
For me the new build is faster.
Like I stated, I'm able to free up a mid slot thanks to bastion.
Thus allowing me to fit a mwd without losing a large portion of tank through resists.

So for me it's faster.

Edit...
Oh and ewar immunity actually allows you to be able to fly against Guristas.

Also, I've always sit and shoot, so bastion doesn't hurt me at all in this reguard

With cruise Golem a 400dps tank MAY be enough, as you can take targets down at range.
With a torp Golem a 400dps tank is NOT enough tank because once they're in range, you're also in range.

The large sig of these ships, less cap, and less HP mean that they rely heavily on active tanking, and can't do so for very long.
Bastion helps to correct this issue.

Now, as I was saying, finally being able to fit an MWD without killing my tank, and bastion meaning that tanking doesn't require near as much cap.. Well, missions are completed quite a bit faster for me.