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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
#261 - 2013-10-03 21:51:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
btw: Changing the CS models into tier3 BC's makes much more sense from the lore side as well.

Basically the tier3 BC's are only recently developed designs and using their hulls for CS can actually be explained. The companies building them adapt that design and find it more suitable for the Command role then the old hulls with the excess power output and whatnot.

Then you bind it with the recent rebalance where it were the field command ships that grew quite different to the previous state and bang it all connects into reason.

And not just change for a change into old hulls which already have other variations anyway.

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Kasumi 'Goto
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#262 - 2013-10-03 21:59:32 UTC
I liked the models the way they were before. Its disappointing CCP couldn't have done something else more constructive with there time such as adding new features.
Leto Atal
LoneStar Industries
#263 - 2013-10-03 22:06:56 UTC
Siddicus wrote:
Leave the Sleipnir alone!

At least give it some kind of variant of the Hurricane model instead of just giving us a *slightly* different Hurricane Fleet Issue. Maybe something like what you all did with the Stabber hulls. Increase the whingy bits on the side so it follows the side of the hull making a V of solar panels and maybe one on the top like a sail or fin. I am not an artist or else I'd have drawn something out for you but don't just give us the same old model with a different cammo.

PS: Give it Zebra stripes!


They aren't solar panels. They are radiators. Minmatar ships are powered by fusion generators that create a lot of heat. The vaccuum of space is a poor conductor of heat, so to dissipate the heat we use large radiator panels. Hence the fins on many of our ships. Minmatar are the only race in EVE to have a propulsion and power generation method based in real world physics. The other races use pixie dust and magic.

+1 for the Zebra stripes.
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#264 - 2013-10-03 22:25:48 UTC
Please please don't do this :(
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#265 - 2013-10-03 22:34:38 UTC
Don't panic, folks, the names aren't changing!

CCP Fozzie wrote:
The plan is:
  • Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger
  • Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon
  • Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake
  • Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane

    • All this means is that e.g.: the Absolution is going to become a Harbinger model with Carthum Conglomerate colours.

    They're not changing the names, relax! You can put down that pitchfork and douse your torches!

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    Yunaki Tenzomura
    School of Applied Knowledge
    Caldari State
    #266 - 2013-10-03 22:54:08 UTC
    how bout give them a very significant look rather than keep the same graphics crap over and over and over again... because now you are matching them with factional npc corporations wouldnt it make more sense to just give them a more unique look outside of the usual hulls and give them a total make over with alot of feel leaning to those said npc corporations rather than the same hull with a different paint job?


    Is CCP so intent on using the same models over and over and over again that you mention you have an art department who does what? add a second or third flare to an already existing model? maybe add a turret slot platform on a ship somewhere to make it different?

    Give your subscribers something different? not just simply changing it to a different hull. most players start off looking at all the ships they dream to one day fly. dreaming to fly another myrmidon, hurricane, drake, or harbinger doesnt give them much to look forward to.

    Also, Paint job like Space Camo doesnt make sense. please put on something that does. unless there is a space jungle that we can hide in that no one in EVE was made aware of?
    maCH'EttE
    Perkone
    Caldari State
    #267 - 2013-10-03 23:08:57 UTC
    These ships are hideous, especially the harbi one. Use the same designer that did the upcoming sisters ships, or the same kind of look and feel.
    Faye Nahkriin
    Astral Wings
    #268 - 2013-10-03 23:51:27 UTC
    I really really love these changes. And are so looking forward to Rubicon now!
    Ace Chet-Chaz Fancyslacks
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #269 - 2013-10-04 00:33:19 UTC
    Lucine Delacourt wrote:
    Should have switched them the other way around.

    Amarr - Laser Chicken & Missile Harb
    Caldari - Blaster Drake & Missile Ferox
    Minny - MissileCane & Auto Cyclone
    Gal - Blaster Myrm and Drone Brutix

    Doesn't ruin the Sleip/NH/Abso models and allows each hull to be used in different ways. With the Prophecy change and this we now have 0 Laser Chickens... who wants to live in a world with no Laser Chickens?!?!?



    +1

    If not new models then this works better for me than the proposed change.
    Naava Edios
    Phoenix Naval Operations
    Phoenix Naval Systems
    #270 - 2013-10-04 00:34:15 UTC
    I'm sorry cant we just keep the Nighthawk as the Ferox hull. That drake looks ugly as *Insert what ever word or phrase of hate to Drake here*

    Unless you plan on Fixing the model again to fit the 5 Launchers it has.... keep the Ferox.... Drake already has enough love "Navy Drake" they don't need any more love.





    Much drake hate flows within me......
    Dark Nephilium
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #271 - 2013-10-04 01:07:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Nephilium
    As someone who actually flies ALL the command ships the hull changes are just plain stupid. Essentially all you are doing is giving us another drake, another myrm, another harby, and another cane.......why? The current command ship hulls work perfectly well and there is no reason to make changes for the sake of making changes. This is just stupid for the sake of being stupid IMO.

    The more I think about this the more I wonder why I keep paying hard earned money to play when you guys are just going to keep coming up with more and more crap like this. Quickly reaching bitter vet status
    Neok1337
    Cloaked Goof
    Goonswarm Federation
    #272 - 2013-10-04 03:12:41 UTC
    yes yes yes and yes

    give me a t2 drake hull allready

    and while we are on the subject hurry up with the other 3...


    tho tbf does make sence that the combat command ships be the t2 variants of the "dps" hulls... I use the term dps very loosely around the drake lol xD

    Neok1337

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    Warde Guildencrantz
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #273 - 2013-10-04 03:38:31 UTC
    Rab See wrote:
    Yes - as someone said - the Sleip is iconic ... but its also the missile boat (coming from the recently missileified Cyclone).

    Would be nice to have a 'black cane' for the Claymore, but it would be odd continuity wise. Maybe a black cane for Sleip - Hotblack Desatio and Islington all over.


    Who cares about continuity, if every ship that has a hurricane hull in the game has autocannons, and i like the hurricane but dont like autocannons, i would use the hull that is bonused to missiles that looks like the hurricane. Oh wait, thats nothing after this change. Same goes for the ferox hull. People used it just because it didnt look like a drake.

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    FaDoyToy
    #274 - 2013-10-04 04:57:32 UTC
    the myrm hull on the eos is pretty sexy looking... the rest, I just don't know about.

    the sleipnir is just such a t2 cyclone, it doesn't make any sense as a hurricane boo boo boo!

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    Meyr
    Di-Tron Heavy Industries
    OnlyFleets.
    #275 - 2013-10-04 05:09:49 UTC
    +1!!!!!!!!!!
    Unezka Turigahl
    Det Som Engang Var
    #276 - 2013-10-04 05:46:02 UTC
    I think the existing ships look better in every case, mostly because the current models look beefier than these models. Which works well for a T2 command ship. Also, we see enough of the drake/hurricane/myrm hulls already.
    Carniflex
    StarHunt
    Mordus Angels
    #277 - 2013-10-04 06:22:17 UTC
    Will this mean that if once would decide to invent a Nighthawk (I know its not economically sensible to invent command ships atm bcos BPO's meeting bulk of the demand) would one need to use a Drake BPC instead of Ferox - or will the change be purely cosmetic and one would be still using Ferox BPC to invent a Drake based T2 hull ?

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    Katmande
    League of Gentlemen
    The Initiative.
    #278 - 2013-10-04 06:45:36 UTC
    NO please. I bought a cyclone Blue Print because it was used for both command ships. If you change it you have reduced the value of my Blue Print for a purely cosmetic reason.
    Akrasjel Lanate
    Immemorial Coalescence Administration
    Immemorial Coalescence
    #279 - 2013-10-04 06:47:32 UTC
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    Rivr Luzade
    Coreli Corporation
    Pandemic Legion
    #280 - 2013-10-04 06:49:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
    Mara Rinn wrote:
    Don't panic, folks, the names aren't changing!

    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    The plan is:
  • Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger
  • Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon
  • Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake
  • Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane

    • All this means is that e.g.: the Absolution is going to become a Harbinger model with Carthum Conglomerate colours.

    They're not changing the names, relax! You can put down that pitchfork and douse your torches!


    You cannot because the Harbinger and Drake model are crap and design-wise utterly inferior to the Prophecy and Ferox model.

    Besides, CCP has no excuses for not introducing new models. Not only do they give us new ships with Rubicon, they (haux or not) also have plans to change other models. And they don't even have to create them themselves (lazy bums). I hope, I don't have to remember CCP of their Create A Starship contest from a couple of years ago? In case I have to: use the Stahlvogel, Evangelos, Precursor and Demora or just scroll through the tons of awesome designs there.

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