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A Way To Solve the AFK Camper Situation in null

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Nova alt
Pedro Rico Endustry Mining Operation
#1 - 2013-10-01 18:32:03 UTC
well going to be breaf on the subject but my idea is simply make the cloking deices use some type of fuel to engague them scuh as stront readaly avalable and cheep!!! just my thoughts would be intersted to have a devs opinion on the subject Lol
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-01 18:36:40 UTC
Why does the "situation" need a solution? What is wrong with the way it works now? You feel like Null should be 100% safe so long as you watch local?
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#3 - 2013-10-01 19:18:47 UTC

Please learn to do a forum search before posting... this only like the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time this exact idea has been posted before. You succeeded in bringing out no new information and haven't even addressed the underlying reasons people AFK cloak in the first place.

Cloaks themselves are just about perfect. The two factors that are out of balance are:

Local Chat (which gives you perfect intel).
Hotdrops (which are pragmatically unscoutable forces dropped onto field nearly-instantly).
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#4 - 2013-10-01 19:37:32 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Please learn to do a forum search before posting... this only like the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time this exact idea has been posted before. You succeeded in bringing out no new information and haven't even addressed the underlying reasons people AFK cloak in the first place.

Cloaks themselves are just about perfect. The two factors that are out of balance are:

Local Chat (which gives you perfect intel).
Hotdrops (which are pragmatically unscoutable forces dropped onto field nearly-instantly).

Not sure I would describe them as out of balance.

Broken? Absolutely correct. Completely borked as game mechanics go, neither evolved into something the devs would claim they wanted to happen.

But it will take a major overhaul to correct this, many have agreed, simply because the problem mechanics have become infused into the base game after so long.

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Oswaldos
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-10-01 19:38:03 UTC
Their is already an active thread on the idea of using fuel for cloaks, cloaking vs local vs cynos, cloaking hunters, and a few other ideas. It might be worth your time to take a look at it

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699&find=unread

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-10-01 20:22:09 UTC
Ugh.




If you could fuel a cloaking device with threads that suggest using fuel for a cloaking device....I could stay cloaked and AFK FOREVER at this rate.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Damian Loken
#7 - 2013-10-02 07:59:41 UTC
Nice try,

So you've heard of portable player owned depos and you would like to refuel your cloak from there, giving the appearance of the AFK CLOAKY problem would be fixed. It will never be fixed. It is broken.

After months of campaigning i really apreciate some peace and quiet and able to farm up some iskies for the fits of the refunded ships i lost in battle but it's a pain in the ass because of AFK claokers.

So no, this won't happen.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-02 08:08:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mocam
Paul Panala wrote:
Why does the "situation" need a solution? What is wrong with the way it works now? You feel like Null should be 100% safe so long as you watch local?


Easy answer: "No. Nor should it be safe to go AFK with a cloak in dangerous space - but it is."

To the OP:

The subject has been beaten to death. It's not a good idea requiring fuel bays, etc. Cloaked ships go places where resupply can be impossible for days on end (deep WH exploration, running into SOV lands - parking in space between logons, etc. where there are *NO* friendly areas around to refill fuel). Not good for what they are capable of doing.

The closest you could get to a fuel sourced "fix" would be if cloaks burned 1% more capacitor than the ship can ever produce (even with cap rechargers or the like). This would enable over an hour and a half cloaked to then warp around until your ship recharged the cap enough to cloak again for a time - and even this idea has a hell of a lot of *OTHER* problems.

It's been beaten on quite a bit.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-10-02 08:32:07 UTC
Nova alt wrote:
well going to be breaf on the subject but my idea is simply make the cloking deices use some type of fuel to engague them scuh as stront readaly avalable and cheep!!! just my thoughts would be intersted to have a devs opinion on the subject Lol


I'll afk camp your whole alliance just because you posted this thread here. >.<

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#10 - 2013-10-02 09:26:22 UTC
Reporting this thread as a duplicate of fifty others. Please learn to search.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#11 - 2013-10-02 10:21:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
To fix the problem of AFK campers in null:

Leave null. With nobody to AFK camp, the camping will cease immediately.

What? Don't look at me that way.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#12 - 2013-10-02 10:49:35 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Reporting this thread as a duplicate of fifty others. Please learn to search.
This.

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#13 - 2013-10-02 10:53:37 UTC
Yet another one?

Why does no one search before posting their "epic" idea. Please see The List where you will find your suggestion and many variants have already been floated over and over and over again.

If the "AFK campers in Null" situation causes you that much concern I suggest you live in the wrong security space and should move back to HiSec.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#14 - 2013-10-02 14:36:32 UTC
AFK Camper is part of an on-going thread which makes this topic redundant. Topic locked.

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