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Dev Blog: Player Owned Customs offices in Hi-Sec

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CCP Falcon
#1 - 2013-10-01 14:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Good afternoon Capsuleers! Big smile

There are many things in which you can put your stuff. Some of these things are owned by players, and some are owned by CONCORD.

One of these many things are Customs Offices. In the past, those located in highsec have been NPC owned. However, with EVE Online: Rubicon this will be changing.

To explain the changes in more detail, CCP SoniClover is here with a new Dev Blog!

Enjoy!

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CCP Paradox
#2 - 2013-10-01 14:52:03 UTC
Woo! Feedback time :)

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Koban Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-10-01 14:52:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Koban Agalder
FIRST!

(ok, "technicly" first) :P

It seems as income of many small guys in HS just got much lower/harder to get.

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CCP Legion
#4 - 2013-10-01 14:52:58 UTC
Quite looking forward to seeing what this brings along with it Cool

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CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2013-10-01 14:55:00 UTC
We've been talking about this feature since we initially introduced the player owned POCOs. I'm so happy it's finally going out. Enjoy guys <3
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
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#6 - 2013-10-01 14:58:02 UTC
Interesting, so how much does a war against Goonswarm cost now again?

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im mrmessy
Woolloomooloo Sheep Dip
#7 - 2013-10-01 14:58:18 UTC
Are nullsec POCOs affected by the wardec ownership transfer lockout?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-01 15:03:02 UTC
I hope this works in game like the devs have planned in there heads.

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CCP Paradox
#9 - 2013-10-01 15:04:12 UTC
im mrmessy wrote:
Are nullsec POCOs affected by the wardec ownership transfer lockout?


Right now, yes. You can transfer between corporations in the same Alliance, but I have expressed to SoniClover the instances of system handovers or alliance-to-alliance transfers.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#10 - 2013-10-01 15:05:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
The only flaw I see to this wonderful idea is the fact that wardec costs (goons.. oops :D Oops) and range (being attacked at the other side of high sec when you wardecced only for a POCO) are not matching this new mechanic.

Edit : will we see suicide-ganking of POCOS ? :D

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-01 15:05:21 UTC
CCP just introduced a reason to go to war in Highsec

a weak one though, but it's a start :)
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-10-01 15:05:35 UTC
Well this is perfect.

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CCP SoniClover
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2013-10-01 15:06:03 UTC
im mrmessy wrote:
Are nullsec POCOs affected by the wardec ownership transfer lockout?


Right now there are no extra rules in, so the transfer would affect all POCOs. We have discussed putting in extra rules based on security bands or timers, but haven't decided if to implement any of them.
Peter Powers
Terrorists of Dimensions
#14 - 2013-10-01 15:09:41 UTC
there is one thing that bothers me:

if the poco can't be transfered during war, that kinda means i can't have
a war-loser transfer his poco (or all his pocos) to me as a reparation payment.
(otherwise i have to drop war first which kinda would allow him to sell 'em to someone else take 'em down or whatever)

so if you really implement this limitation it would be nice if there was at least a "transfer to war oponnent" button or something like that.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#15 - 2013-10-01 15:12:23 UTC
Does attacking Interbus owned custom office give suspect flag(doing so in low sec gives one if im not mistaken) ?

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CCP SoniClover
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2013-10-01 15:12:43 UTC
Peter Powers wrote:
there is one thing that bothers me:

if the poco can't be transfered during war, that kinda means i can't have
a war-loser transfer his poco (or all his pocos) to me as a reparation payment.
(otherwise i have to drop war first which kinda would allow him to sell 'em to someone else take 'em down or whatever)

so if you really implement this limitation it would be nice if there was at least a "transfer to war oponnent" button or something like that.


That wouldn't really work. A POCO owner could then have an alt corp be at war with the corp that owns the POCO and then transfer it to the alt corp when the POCO comes under threat.
NoxiousPluK
Gallactic Groove Guild
#17 - 2013-10-01 15:13:29 UTC  |  Edited by: NoxiousPluK
Peter Powers wrote:
there is one thing that bothers me:

if the poco can't be transfered during war, that kinda means i can't have
a war-loser transfer his poco (or all his pocos) to me as a reparation payment.
(otherwise i have to drop war first which kinda would allow him to sell 'em to someone else take 'em down or whatever)

so if you really implement this limitation it would be nice if there was at least a "transfer to war oponnent" button or something like that.

I totally agree with this.

This was my only question, I love more reasons to go to war.

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CCP SoniClover wrote:
Peter Powers wrote:
there is one thing that bothers me:

if the poco can't be transfered during war, that kinda means i can't have
a war-loser transfer his poco (or all his pocos) to me as a reparation payment.
(otherwise i have to drop war first which kinda would allow him to sell 'em to someone else take 'em down or whatever)

so if you really implement this limitation it would be nice if there was at least a "transfer to war oponnent" button or something like that.


That wouldn't really work. A POCO owner could then have an alt corp be at war with the corp that owns the POCO and then transfer it to the alt corp when the POCO comes under threat.



Hmm yes I can see that problem. Maybe if all wartargets had to agree on the transfer? But that would require a lot more code.
Lakshata Chawla
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-10-01 15:14:30 UTC
So... You're keeping the NPC tax rates on the pocos, even if they're owned by a player?

There doesn't seem to be any incentive to do PI in highsec then since you can probably just find a nice C1, have no tax, and actually just mine the resources yourself.

If you want to remove NPC pocos, remove the NPC tax on pocos as well.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-10-01 15:16:38 UTC
Please also remove the SOV requirement in nullsec to place command centers. This would allow us to open it up based on standings and share planets with people. We can lockout hostiles with 100% tax rates if so desired.

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Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2013-10-01 15:22:19 UTC
render onto ccp what is ccp's, and render onto goonswarm what is goonswarm's

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