Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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The Wardec System is a joke..

I've been Wardec'd twice by random players hoping for some PVP game play. I don't PVP in High Sec, unless someone is willing to lose their ship to concord.

Both times they just wasted their 50M, since I just popped over to my alts corp and didn't miss a tick on my game play.

1) The guy wasted his money, although it was just pennies (two lvl 4 missions).
2) It had no value and no reason to do be in it.
3) You can just insta leave and join another corp to avoid it.
4) Wasted all players time.


solution.....

Make it expensive to Wardec a corp to save this waste of time, like the cost of a PLEX (500m ISK). Also make it so players like myself can not leave corp while at war for at least the first week, in order to feel the sting of real war. That way only major corps/players with real reasons to declare war will use the option. Raising the bar will increase it's value in game.

You may even add a War ISK/LP Fund value that builds with each ship kill to sweeten the pot a little, where winner takes all. Right now, there is absolutely no reason to PVP in this manner, since Null players can just shoot anyways.

Oops... okay a little work may be needed, but you get the idea...

Make it more interesting and rewarding to declare war.

It seems to me that the wardec system is really only a High Sec mechanic though, since you can just shoot in low and null anyway.

I agree that there needs to be something to make leaving during a wardec less attractive, but player freedom is more important.

I suggest, and have for some time, generating several killrights on someone who leaves a corp during a war, to the opposing side's directors or CEO.

How about you make it cost a PLEX in highsec. That would be a good idea for you people.

Again, not a PLEX, just the value of it. Just put that as a value.

Sure, Wardec's should have High Sec conditions and Null Sec/Low Sec situations depending on where the corp is headquartered.

It seems like it could be a cool thing if someone truly deserves a War, so why ruin it with such meaningless mechanics.
In Low or Null it has ZERO value anyway, it's just when Enemies enter High Sec would it mean something to Null Player at war.

ISK determines it.

Making it more expensive makes a reason more important.... so if it's just for kicks against new corps to get easy kills, you'll have to shell out for the chance..... just a bit of balance. If it's meaningful, as in someone really got your goat, then you'll pay and get at least something back for your ISK....even if it's the player corp has some fear because they can't leave for a week or lose play time.

Otherwise, if there is no consequence for it, why?

600m is pocket change for some people. For others, that's a month of suicide gank Catalysts, and they'll skip the wardec entirely.

I'm still trying to follow... some dude complains that he got Wardecced... and wants it changed to he's got to fight?

This thread wasn't a complaint about me being Wardec'd....

It was a more that WarDec's have no value in their current state when it's too easy to enter war and too easy to not participate.

War by it's nature should be a serious thing and a mechanic for serious combat. At present there is no consequence for War or value to play that part of the game since it doesn't really do anything or have any ISK, Status or corp value.

There would be no reason for a small High Sec Corp to play along with another corp/player in the form of war unless it was consensual and had value to both parties. The guy that declared war should also have a consequence for that action.

how about.

1) Consensual War = Very low cost to start. = both parties put up a war ISK pot and winner takes all. Lasts a week.
2) Forced War = Very HIGH cost to start. Originator puts up 500m for ISK pot and challenges other corp to take it in combat based on wins.
3) Can't leave corp for one week after start of war.


Ideas?

I fully agree. Evading a wardecc should honestly be considered an exploit and players corp hopping shortly after a wardec should be penalized. Or at least the players should keep the wardecced status with them to whatever corp they hop onto, lasting till their original corp finishes the war.