These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

In-Game Events and Gatherings

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

SOMER Blink - Microlotteries that Finish in Minutes! 1 QUADRILLION ISK Won!

First post First post First post
Author
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#1821 - 2013-09-26 10:24:56 UTC
Michael Harari wrote:
PS when do darkness and chribba get their trillion isk?

Form an orderly queue, please.
Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1822 - 2013-09-26 10:26:24 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Pull Chribba Dice support in protest.


Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site?

Just curious if you'd prefer to withdraw your use of our gifts in protest :)

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1823 - 2013-09-26 10:27:10 UTC
The problem here is that the more Blink Blast tickets you own, the better your odds of winning the Gold Magnate. Sure, everyone that plays Blink can a get a few free tickets ... but a tonne of rich dudes are gonna give Somer their ISK and play thousands of blinks to increase their odds.

This Gold Magnate giveaway just increases the size of Somer's wallet. It's not like the money from this event is going to the Homeless Jita Orphan Fund.

I too would like CCP to give me the opportunity to increase my wallet size substantially.

If CCP wants to give away Gold Magnates, then they should run a simple lottery ... one ticket per account holder. Every player in EVE has a chance to win. (And yes, some people have more accounts than others, nothing is perfect ... but it is a far cry better than giving Gold Magnates to some 3rd party website ... which CCP can't even confirm is totally legit ... they only have a suspicion it is legit.)
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1824 - 2013-09-26 10:29:23 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Pull Chribba Dice support in protest.


Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site?

Just curious if you'd prefer to withdraw your use of our gifts in protest :)

Wow. CCP chose wisely when they gave you guys Gold Magnates.

Perhaps you should ban my Somer Blink account. I'd love it if Somer started restricting players from winning the CCP donated prizes that you were given.
Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1825 - 2013-09-26 10:30:18 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:

This Gold Magnate giveaway just increases the size of Somer's wallet. It's not like the money from this event is going to the Homeless Jita Orphan Fund.


It's going to the Eve Vegas PVP tourney sponsorship, actually :)

Quote:
... which CCP can't even confirm is totally legit ... they only have a suspicion it is legit.)


Again, if you don't feel like we're a legitimate service, I'm more than happy to help you discontinue claiming gifts each and every time we've offered them.

You know, in case you want to protest.

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1826 - 2013-09-26 10:37:31 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:

This Gold Magnate giveaway just increases the size of Somer's wallet. It's not like the money from this event is going to the Homeless Jita Orphan Fund.


It's going to the Eve Vegas PVP tourney sponsorship, actually :)
Every last ISK?

Andrev Nox wrote:
Quote:
... which CCP can't even confirm is totally legit ... they only have a suspicion it is legit.)


Again, if you don't feel like we're a legitimate service, I'm more than happy to help you discontinue claiming gifts each and every time we've offered them.

You know, in case you want to protest.
Don't pretend you're some sort of charity. You're a for profit gambling organization. I paid my dues into Blink. Nothing I do on that site is free. You got my ISK so that I could participate. (Not too mention some $$$ via Game Time card purchases.)
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1827 - 2013-09-26 10:38:46 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
You know, in case you want to protest.
Being self-righteous, as tho you're entitled to these CCP gifts does not help your case or cause.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#1828 - 2013-09-26 10:42:32 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
Again, if you don't feel like we're a legitimate service, I'm more than happy to help you discontinue claiming gifts each and every time we've offered them.

You know, in case you want to protest.

All you had to do to stay in the clear here was to say nothing, but you had to give it some attitude.

Don't you think it's a little cliche for a gambling magnate to resort to intimidation when accused of corruption?

Igor Nappi
Doomheim
#1829 - 2013-09-26 10:45:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Igor Nappi
Hello CCP. I would like to be given some special edition / unique ships, too. Surely you wouldn't want to favour whoever is running Somer Blink at the expense of others?

Furthermore, I think that links must be removed from the game.

Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1830 - 2013-09-26 10:49:27 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
...to resort to intimidation...


To clarify - I'm not and wasn't intimating that I'd close his account. We didn't close it when he ignored our rules and tried to sell answers to our trivia giveaways in Jita local, we certainly wouldn't close it over a rabble rousing forum post :)

I noticed he had one hand raised in protest, but the other was still busy opening gifts. I was just checking if he was interested in joining in on the protests he was suggesting for others.

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1831 - 2013-09-26 10:54:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Andrev Nox wrote:
I noticed he had one hand raised in protest, but the other was still busy opening gifts.
Of course. The chances of CCP backing down are next to nil. If anything, CCP is more than likely to double-down on this. Hell, they might even give you more Gold Magnates.

CCP, if you'll recall, doubled-down on Incarna and $60 monocles, until someone in the company said "Hey, we're actually losing accounts over this. A lot of accounts."

Since I doubt people are going to cancel accounts over this ... the Gold Magnates are not going to vanish from your prize pool. I might as well get a couple tickets in there.

But I will ***** about their decision in the meanwhile ... so hopefully it never happens again.
Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1832 - 2013-09-26 10:57:50 UTC
Since you believe they're going to give away these kind of ships no matter what - even if, say, an equitable and fair player organization weren't willing to facilitate it - perhaps direct your complaint towards CCP then, rather than encouraging people towards some type of faux moral outrage "withdraw support in protest" type actions.

The later is a little easier to misinterpret than the former :)

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.

Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1833 - 2013-09-26 10:59:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Templar
Hey CCP. Can you please stop ruining your own game? At least for a while?
Thank you!

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1834 - 2013-09-26 11:01:01 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
... an equitable and fair player organization weren't willing to facilitate it.
Says you.

I believe Somer Blink is probably 99% fair. I have no idea if there's a 1% of the time that Somer rewards himself or protects his profit margins with some shady "random-number generation."
Major Trant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1835 - 2013-09-26 11:01:49 UTC
My first thought when I read about this was 'so what?'. As Malkavien above stated. Some Joe will win it (them). Some rich collector will buy them. Joe will never want for Isk again and the ship will likely never undock. Absolutely nothing will have been achieved in terms of real content.

At the same time I'm thinking maybe I should sign up for a Blink account. I've always resisted the urge, even though I've been in receipt of several Somer Blink sponsored prizes via RvB Ganked roams. But at the end of the day it is a gambling site and ultimately the vast majority of users will lose money.

I haven't got any particular moral objections to gambling I just understand that if you play a game where the house take a 7% (?) cut of the proceeds, you are almost certain to lose money. 7% doesn't sound a lot, but all gambling instituitions know that the average Joe only quits after his losses reach an unpleasant amount. If he wins he will come back again and again until it's all gone.

I've know loads of people who have won great prizes through Somer Blink, it is human nature to brag when you win. But when you lose most people shut up. Only two people have admitted losing to me. One lost 50B, another was buying Plex to fund it.

The real result of this will be thousands of new Somer Blink accounts and while most will only lose a bit and then give up. Some of those people will seriously ruin their Eve experience as a result of this.

I'm gobsmacked that CCP would associate themselves with this and I can't help but wonder why they are so far up Somer Blink's arse? Are CCP that strapped for cash that they are going back to the 'Greed is Good' mentality, via the back door?

Sorry but not very subtle.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#1836 - 2013-09-26 11:06:21 UTC  |  Edited by: probag Bear
Andrev Nox wrote:
Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site?


How is this not abuse of power? Willfully searching for and then publicly disclosing customer information for the sake of some half-******** argument?
Tar Guo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1837 - 2013-09-26 11:13:28 UTC
Yeah this is a bad idea.
Bobmon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1838 - 2013-09-26 11:15:12 UTC
bad idea idea is bad

@BobmonEVE - BOBMON FOR CSM 12

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#1839 - 2013-09-26 11:15:55 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
...to resort to intimidation...


To clarify - I'm not and wasn't intimating that I'd close his account. We didn't close it when he ignored our rules and tried to sell answers to our trivia giveaways in Jita local, we certainly wouldn't close it over a rabble rousing forum post :)

Jolly good. Big smile

In any case, if CCP do not change their mind on this, I'd like to congratulate you on this unprecidented blessing. I personally believe that the hard work of your group should be applauded and rewarded, but I'm fairly sure you had that side of things taken care of without the need for CCP to take this troubling course.

I find no fault in you, just because CCP has decided they want to re-issue limited edition content (when there is no need to) and give such a large gift to your player group (regardless of the good works it may be put to). I've been the beneficiary of too many windfalls to righteously complain about others getting their share.

I fully understand you have an interest in the outcome here too, but this may be one of those situations where it's best to stay out of the line of fire.
Jommis
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#1840 - 2013-09-26 11:26:34 UTC
Major Trant wrote:


I haven't got any particular moral objections to gambling I just understand that if you play a game where the house take a 7% (?) cut of the proceeds, you are almost certain to lose money. 7% doesn't sound a lot, but all gambling instituitions know that the average Joe only quits after his losses reach an unpleasant amount. If he wins he will come back again and again until it's all gone.



I'm down atleast 200 bill Bear

But i have had good fun loosing them.

If Ccp is donating ships to somer blink i think it should be a own type of blink ships.
Since others have played for a long time getting these rare ships.

And the live events like shoot Andrev in the face is the most fun I have had in eve for ages Lol