Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Can't you store cap ships in Cap Ship Maintenance Arrays? Problem solved, woot!

And, yes, getting into super cap ships is supposed to be a big commitment. CCP has said before that they regret how prolific supers have become. They're not supposed to be like any other ship you just hop into, it's a major commitment of time, ISK, and effort.

If your alliance can't afford a holding alt for a super when it's not in use, they shouldn't have a super to begin with. And if you're just getting one for personal use, you should definitely be able to afford a holding alt. Look at it as an ongoing maintenance cost.

Well, the Cap Ship Maint Array has enough space inside to store any supercap. I don't know personally if there's a hard limit against storing supercaps in them once they're launched or if people just don't know about it/don't want to use them.

And I never said anything about the alliance having alts to give to people, but an alliance should be able to hand the super holding alt a PLEX every month. And if you don't think the person is trustworthy enough to give them a PLEX and trust they're using it to keep the char going, why the hell do they have a super? lol

And you're missing the part about commitment. Personally, I don't think holding alts should be used at all for supers, I wouldn't have any issue with trapping the main character in the super. The issue is that making supers dockable (or any way of locking them down to be kept on ice without any ongoing cost) turns them into just another ship that can be tossed around. Supers are too common as-is, they don't need more stuff to make it easy to just have one for the heck of it, there should be a real need if you're going to get one.

Please try re-reading what I said. I specifically didn't talk about sharing accounts at all. I mentioned paying for PLEX for the account, nothing about sharing the account.

And I still haven't heard any reason why the Cap Ship Maint Array can't be used for storing supers (you can even eject from a super inside a POS bubble and leave it there). Then they would be at risk of theft or destruction as you're saying, but it wouldn't require all of the development work that locking a ship in space would.

Tell me of an alliance that buys accounts, farms the char, then gives holding alts... oh, now you say plex. That's the same as buying a holding alt. Are you trying to back out of that?


by the way, a CSMA holds 150mil m3. A Wyvern, for example, is 530mil m3.

ejecting in a POS opens it up to the entire alliance to be taken, opposed to a limited, controlled group of people.


I'm still waiting on another non-meta suggestion.

I don't know much about supers, but the game shouldn't force people to have multiple accounts in order to enjoy multiple aspects of the game if they have the skills and assets for them. It shouldn't be required to have super-specific characters that stay in their suipers until they are called for, not being able to leave the ship in a corp-safe spot or station.

To my understanding (I'm not a POS person), you can NOT remove ships from a CSMA when the POS is reinforced. Additionally, the access rights to CSMA's are not very restricted, meaning putting a titan or SC in a CSMA is just a recipe for theft and/or loss.

Essentially, while POS have the modules to store supers, they do NOT have the security to make it worthwhile.

Docking games, insurance, and free in-station repairs, not to mention Super Proliferation, make docking them in station a really problematic idea.

Essentially, the best solution I can think of for storing supercaps would be PLAYER owned stations (not corp owned), thereby providing restricted POS access. Additionally, you would need to be able to eject ships from a CSMA even when the POS is in RF mode.