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Let's change highsec!

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-09-07 13:40:14 UTC
Since plenty of null corps are advocating pro-null and anti-high, you should recognize when someone is looking to make highsec more unattractive and outside of highsec more attractive.

Danger isn't really a deterrent given the current threads on highsec ganks, freighter ganks, and any other highsec mechanics whine/flame war subjects.

Hitting highsec economically and/or limiting the amount of content is going to work better to usher highseccers out to low, null, wh, anywhere else.

Why people think safety is an element is beyond me, because regardless of whether you have more station campers, more interdictions, more ganks or anything else... highseccers will still be highseccers.

Remove incursions in highsec (it's empire space, why do capsuleers need to help???).

Remove freighters (keep haulers).

Remove L4 missions (Why does empire even have such a presence of those caliber of rats anyways?).

Keep wardecs, keep ganks, keep the meta.

But limit the pve.

Even keep L4 missions (if removing them completely is too strict) down to .5 systems to only occur in lowsec (would create more gate camps and further make highsec more dangerous through those bottlenecks).

You start limiting that, you start limiting the market. Keep industry as it is or whatever... you'll have border systems being hotspots. This will encourage highseccers to need to work as a team to encourage better cohesiveness with corps, highsec alliances, and help create a better pvp environment to establish tradelines.

It would also encourage markets on both sides of those chokepoints, and make things a ton more active without changing any mechanics. This might even also help with the whole "we have one server to reinforce, please make an appt to schedule your big fights" as Jita's traffic would slowly start to dwindle. Not to mention it would spread out the spammers/scam bots that clutter our systems with their unwanted presence (not a stealth nerf scam thread, but seriously, clean the junk drawer out!).

I would normally post this in F&I however, I wanted to see what kind of sparks would fly so I could further finetune my ideas before presenting it as an official post.

Comments, concerns, input and ideas are welcome. Flames and trolls won't really work so don't bother trying to attack my forum persona, I could have just as easily used an alt to post this but meh, can't be bothered =P.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-09-07 13:46:11 UTC
is this a joke?
Jim Era
#3 - 2013-09-07 13:49:05 UTC
Why does the way I play my game bother you so much sir?

Wat™

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#4 - 2013-09-07 13:49:09 UTC
Can't say I agree with any of your ideas to be honest, assuming this is a legit thread and you're not aiming to start drama.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#5 - 2013-09-07 13:49:34 UTC

--> Features & Ideas Discussion

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-09-07 13:51:50 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Can't say I agree with any of your ideas to be honest, assuming this is a legit thread and you're not aiming to start drama.


Its a murk thread...
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#7 - 2013-09-07 13:52:28 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Drive every hiseccer out of the game, CCP doesn't needs those subscribers anyway.


[Insert competitor] alt detected. Cool

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#8 - 2013-09-07 14:06:14 UTC
Massive wholesale change is seldom a winning proposition. Life in hisec isn't perfect, but it's better than this.

I'll give the OP credit where it's due - his rationale for these changes are generally well-considered. I'm convinced, however, that I would dislike the resulting destabilized dystopia.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.

Rengerel en Distel
#9 - 2013-09-07 14:10:49 UTC
Whatever ailments everyone perceives to be afflicting the game could be remedied for the most part by CCP biting the bullet and just doing the POS revamp. Making a POS a personal structure instead of corp clears out the corp UI restrictions, while allowing CCP to severely cut the production lines in NPC stations.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#10 - 2013-09-07 14:10:51 UTC
Posting in an obvious "Nerf Highsec" thread...

...

Josef Djugashvilis
#11 - 2013-09-07 15:26:46 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
is this a joke?


He is, as is his postSmile

This is not a signature.

Josef Djugashvilis
#12 - 2013-09-07 15:28:41 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:


Or even better, Features and Absolutely No New Ideas Discussion

This is not a signature.

Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-09-07 16:02:24 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Can't say I agree with any of your ideas to be honest, assuming this is a legit thread and you're not aiming to start drama.


Its a murk thread...



That just means I'm not scared of your idiocy =)

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-09-07 16:05:38 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Massive wholesale change is seldom a winning proposition. Life in hisec isn't perfect, but it's better than this.

I'll give the OP credit where it's due - his rationale for these changes are generally well-considered. I'm convinced, however, that I would dislike the resulting destabilized dystopia.



That's kind of the point. If you see how much complaining is going on about nonsensical things.... the conclusion would be to remove it all and help encourage people to leave highsec and go to null.

If people are going to have highsec to be such an issue.. remove the damned thing. Limit it to true carebear land....

Those gankers who like to prey on the weak and tout "mechanics hurr durr hurr? gtfo. Those who asre jealous of highsecs income and think null should have better industry? There ya go. Show low/null/wh to be "better" in terms of risk versus reward? Sure why not.

Limit it. Define it. Or deal with it and be happy with your decisions.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-09-07 16:06:16 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
Why does the way I play my game bother you so much sir?



This is to think I'm bothered by your game play? I'm not.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-09-07 16:08:38 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Drive every hiseccer out of the game, CCP doesn't needs those subscribers anyway.


[Insert competitor] alt detected. Cool



Paranoia aside... no.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-09-07 16:09:28 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Posting in an obvious "Nerf Highsec" thread...



So obvious the OP missed it... /golfclap

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Dave Stark
#18 - 2013-09-07 16:10:19 UTC
another terrible thread by a known troll.

must be a slow day on the forums if he's making his own threads to troll.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-09-07 16:14:41 UTC
Either all of this or make null a lot less boring and less pointless. Make it fluid, not static power suburbs that have nothing for high sec people to do except act as easy targets.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-09-07 16:14:44 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
another terrible thread by a known troll.

must be a slow day on the forums if he's making his own threads to troll.



LOL.

Tryhard.

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