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Mining Lasers and self defence...
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Craic McAran
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-09-06 00:10:58 UTC
If we can cut and dissolve asteroids with our mighty lasers.....then why not consider using them to defend ourselves against other ships by using them as weapons.

Something strong enough to destroy an asteroid should be able to dissolve, melt , or burn through the hull of another's ship...
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
#2 - 2013-09-06 00:22:44 UTC
Sadly, you can't make gankers be gneiss.

Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur. 
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-09-06 01:36:26 UTC
While a bad idea in application, this would indeed be hilarious to see in action.
Reese Armgo
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-09-06 02:01:56 UTC
Ever wondered why you cant use Energy Weapons to cut asteroids in small Cargobay sized pieces?

Thats because they use to much energy, they just vaporize the asteroids. So mininglasers work because they are really really weak.

Just give the miningbarges 5-6 Highslots for Weapons. Make the Pirates work for their money!
Cade Windstalker
#5 - 2013-09-06 02:34:15 UTC
Reese Armgo wrote:
Ever wondered why you cant use Energy Weapons to cut asteroids in small Cargobay sized pieces?

Thats because they use to much energy, they just vaporize the asteroids. So mininglasers work because they are really really weak.

Just give the miningbarges 5-6 Highslots for Weapons. Make the Pirates work for their money!


Or you could hire protection or just use the tanky mining ship.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#6 - 2013-09-06 03:49:54 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Reese Armgo wrote:
Ever wondered why you cant use Energy Weapons to cut asteroids in small Cargobay sized pieces?

Thats because they use to much energy, they just vaporize the asteroids. So mininglasers work because they are really really weak.

Just give the miningbarges 5-6 Highslots for Weapons. Make the Pirates work for their money!


Or you could hire protection or just use the tanky mining ship.

hehehe, somebody is afraid of miners fighting back with mining ships.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-09-06 04:09:26 UTC
Craic McAran wrote:
If we can cut and dissolve asteroids with our mighty lasers.....then why not consider using them to defend ourselves against other ships by using them as weapons.

Something strong enough to destroy an asteroid should be able to dissolve, melt , or burn through the hull of another's ship...

except, when your mining an asteroid, your mining a composite of several minerals boudn together by space dust, which is extremely weaker than the refined minerals used in refined compounds on ships with nanotechnology maintaining hull integrity.

in short, ship hulls WAY stronger than asteroids.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#8 - 2013-09-06 05:40:49 UTC
Exhume the bastards. Cool

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-09-06 16:00:51 UTC
I wouldn't mind seeing tech two strip miners and minin lasers having a "combat crystal"

Take a strip miner... give it the tracking of 1400mm arties, a 400m sig res, with the range and DPS of 200mm rails
Take a mining laser... give it the tracking of 720mm arties, a medium weapon sized sig res,, with the range and DPS of 125mm rails.
They might be useful to pop some rats, and an entire fleet of mining ships could give a lone frigate some trouble (although you could say the same anyway with just the light drones from a fleet of mining ships).

It would be a fun, but gimicky mechanic
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#10 - 2013-09-06 16:24:14 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Reese Armgo wrote:
Ever wondered why you cant use Energy Weapons to cut asteroids in small Cargobay sized pieces?

Thats because they use to much energy, they just vaporize the asteroids. So mininglasers work because they are really really weak.

Just give the miningbarges 5-6 Highslots for Weapons. Make the Pirates work for their money!


Or you could hire protection or just use the tanky mining ship.

This ONLY works in theory.

In practice, you are lucky to pick up dedicated protection even with simply token level presences.

PvP players, being asked to sit, twiddle thumbs, or rat in a manner perceived as half arsed, simply is not something they find interesting.
EVE is not a second job, they are not interested in things being tedious instead of maximum fun possible.
PvP players want the fastest possible action, for often limited amounts of play time available.

That means outside of high sec you get no protection, and the tanky mining ship only keeps you alive 5 seconds longer.

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Psychoactive Stimulant
#11 - 2013-09-06 17:35:48 UTC
I will defend you and not relay your position to the highest bidder, i promise.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#12 - 2013-09-06 17:56:44 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Reese Armgo wrote:
Ever wondered why you cant use Energy Weapons to cut asteroids in small Cargobay sized pieces?

Thats because they use to much energy, they just vaporize the asteroids. So mininglasers work because they are really really weak.

Just give the miningbarges 5-6 Highslots for Weapons. Make the Pirates work for their money!


Or you could hire protection or just use the tanky mining ship.

This ONLY works in theory.

In practice, you are lucky to pick up dedicated protection even with simply token level presences.

PvP players, being asked to sit, twiddle thumbs, or rat in a manner perceived as half arsed, simply is not something they find interesting.
EVE is not a second job, they are not interested in things being tedious instead of maximum fun possible.
PvP players want the fastest possible action, for often limited amounts of play time available.

That means outside of high sec you get no protection, and the tanky mining ship only keeps you alive 5 seconds longer.

This wouldn't work as well in HS obviously, but mining in wh/0.0 with a bunch of tanky skiffs + drones + warp disruptor. Couple flights of mediums + multiple hulls with 40k ehp in shields would be pretty frustrating folks looking for defenseless targets.

I'm right behind you