Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Question: When activated, does Bastion continue to cycle until deactivated? ie: Is there any set time limit, cooldown (etc.) for how long Bastion can run? (since it's not capacitor or fuel dependent)

Base capacitor for Paladin: 5625
With Energy Management 5: 7031,25
With Energy Management 5 & Amarr BS 5: 8789,06 (heh, just because you need that Amarr BS 5 just to sit in one and you shouldn't fly battleships without energy management 5)

5625 + 2375 = 8000

The Bastion module gives equal bonuses to optimal and falloff. Shouldn't it be a double bonus for falloff, just like for example the Tracking Enhancer or Tracking Computer? Otherwise the autocannon Vargur and in lesser degree the blaster Kronos would receive an inferior damage projection bonus to the Paladin.

As has been mentioned a couple of times in this (admittedly rather long) thread, Capital Commanders and Pilots do not want a timer reduction for Siege or Triage Mode. It is extremely important for the prosecution of capital warfare that everyone be starting and ending their siege cycles at the same time, otherwise someone with a lower timer may get the "Siege Red!" warning right AFTER their cycle starts up again, meaning they are dead since they can't jump, relocate, ect, and the fleet is not going to go for another cycle just so a few pilots can be saved.

Also since Bastion bears very little resemblance to a Dreadnaught Siege Module this would be very inconsistent and confusing for new players.

While I can certainly get behind less training time overall I also think that having a separate skill is likely required by CCP's code and helps to differentiate Marauders as not being part of the path to Dreadnaughts.

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I think you manage just fine without a new skill and without strontium. Try at least to put some effort in those excuses. Or be honest: "We put a new 8x Skill in, because we can." , is a more valid reason than that strotium lie.

Woh the change sounds... Amazing ? Yeah. The whole siege mode and microjumpdrive thing.

Now I think that the golem should desserve a bit more PW, and a bit more targeting resolution. Waiting for missiles to hit is already a huge waste of time, no need to increase the delay before firing as well...

Also, shouldn't the Vargur have one more med and one less low ? Because it's tank shield AND designed to fit a MJD.

Doubt that marauders will change in role drastically. Their tank will be very limited in case of ASB-setups, potentially insufficient against a whole team regarding neuts/dps - but totally outstanding with their rangebonus and ewar-immunity. At least this year appeared to include a variety of remote modules and energy transfers to overcome the obstacles of module-limitations etc.

Though the active tank bonus is insane, it's nothing you can't overcome even with a 10ish-man format. Might even be less intimidating than *example* ASB-vindicator with scimi-backup.

To me, they look an awful lot like great at pve (cause who *this gist large-SB is my lvl4 tank*) and weird for pvp. The Bastion module appears impossible to judge without a lot of testing, it is reaching into broken aswell as OP on so many levels :3

I'll have to quote my corp mate, Logan Durandal, who recently left the game, on this matter. In a discussion, a few months ago, about the battleship changes, he said to me:

"Why is CCP making everything so clear-cut? Now, whenever you see a battleship, you already know what it's gonna do. I thought battleships were supposed to versatile, with large drone bays, neuts and slots to fit unexpected modules in. Now they're just dps/tank platforms."

I disagreed, saying only because all the ships were equally powerful now, that didn't mean one could not put unexpected fits on them to surprise the opponent. Meanwhile, it has become obvious that he was right and I was wrong. True, it is possible to fit unexpected things on a battleship, but that was never the main point. The main point was, that in a given situation, it used to be possible to fit a ship such that it would be way better than it was expected to be.

Most people thought that, for example, a Raven was a crappy ship, which made it easy to pull some tricks out of your sleeve and destroy those who underestimated you. Now that all the battleships are considered dangerous, this has become much harder. No matter what battleship you're in, people are gonna bring whatever is necessary to kill you and there's nothing you can do about it. Kil2 once said a very intelligent thing in his podcast: "Most people will have a negative performance-vs-expectation. Whereas, when we fly ships like a Ferox, we can get a way positive performance-vs-expectation." Note, this was before the BC rebalance.

This Marauder change will, at least from a small scale pvp standpoint, make this problem much worse for all marauders. With very specialized and unique bonuses, there is no way you can ever surprise anyone. You can MJD around, then stand there, tank insane amounts of damage and eventually die to overwhelming numbers. And everyone knows that is the only thing you can do. So people will just think about what they need to kill you without any losses and bring that in, or, failing that, not engage you.

Since marauders were never used much in small-scale pvp anyway that is not a huge problem. But it is a good example for the general direction your balancing efforts are going towards. I have been a huge fan of tiericide for the past two years, but maybe you are overdoing it a little. This marauder thing, frankly, sounds terrible to me. In my eyes, gearing a ship so completely towards one very specific playstyle goes against the principles of EVE. You might want to think about where this is going to end.

Might as well just rat in a triage carrier :p

This is going to make null sec ratting with marauders interesting.

Also for the Golem : 7000 that's -300 from now, not +300