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Jukebox Petition - Bring it back!

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Ivan Krividus
Cold Lazarus Inc
The-Expanse
#461 - 2013-08-11 02:56:56 UTC
Shokre O'Corwi wrote:
CCP, can you add a Word like Office application while you're at it? Also, some CD/DVD burning software would be good, I don't wanna use an external application.

/sarcasm mode off

Music players freely available on the internet are way better at playing music then EVE's player ever was (not to be rude or anything, just stating that specialized software does the job better). Time of developers is better spent coding and developing something that benefits the gameplay anyway.



Yes, but why remove it if it was already made and implemented in the first place?
Laura Janu
The Warehouse Corporation
The Imperial Union
#462 - 2013-08-12 18:34:30 UTC
Signed.
Luciel Abraxas
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#463 - 2013-08-15 07:22:00 UTC
So many disapointed players for a senseless decision from CCP that i really start to think that another "Incarna remonstrance" is needed to make possible to have back the juke box Twisted
ArcticPrism
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#464 - 2013-08-16 08:33:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ArcticPrism
I too would like the jukebox back. I stopped listening to Eve's music after it was removed. Some of the tracks I really dislike(like the Jovian ones) and those are commonly played in low sec. My favorite music is only played in high sec or in station. I really liked being able to pick my favorites.

Options are always a good thing. What CCP did with the jukebox was a great idea but they should integrate it into the jukebox. Have it like the old jukebox where it would play through the music in order or shuffle and have the optional of picking what you want to listen to . What they could do is tack on an "auto"(could be named differently) that would have it play the way it currently does. Their new system won't go to waste and people who want the old system are happy. Everyone wins.
Tychus Fera
The Death Charros
#465 - 2013-08-20 16:51:02 UTC
+1
Make it happen ccp.
Cade Windstalker
#466 - 2013-08-20 17:12:38 UTC
Luciel Abraxas wrote:
So many disapointed players for a senseless decision from CCP that i really start to think that another "Incarna remonstrance" is needed to make possible to have back the juke box Twisted


There's a bit of a difference between "we feel the game is going in a bad direction" and "we want you to spend huge chunks of time on this outdated piece of the client that can be easily worked around and has nothing to do with in-space features" (you know, the things that caused the Summer of Rage in the first place).

If it's a choice between iterating on any of the existing mechanics or even giving us new in-space features and a new jukebox the mechanics/features should win hands down.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#467 - 2013-08-21 18:33:02 UTC
Remember Incarna? Then remember what happened when you gave people the power of choice? I don't see how this jukebox is much different.

- Signed Alduin666 Shikkoken

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#468 - 2013-08-21 19:03:19 UTC
CCP RealX wrote:
Hi,

I want to thank you all for taking time to give this matter you attention. We (meaning the CCP sound department) are monitoring this thread closely and take all opinions into consideration. I hope you don't think we made this decision lightly.

First, some back story.

As many of you know that used the jukebox it was quite buggy and we got a lot of negative feedback regarding its use, it didn't measure up to other media players, it didn't support this or that codec etc. The jukebox works as a plugin to our audio engine (Audio Kinetics WWise) and was based on a now deprecated Microsoft MP3 decoder that was used as an example on how to build plugins for the WWise engine.

As mentioned in the blog these were the biggest issues that factored into the removal the jukebox. We believe we made the right decision but that is for EVE's community to decide. If we however made the wrong decision and you decide that we will put the jukebox back into the game, it will happen at the cost of adding new game-play related features. And I ask you all to weigh that into your thoughts on the matter. The jukebox needs a lot of love, and if we will give it all the love that it needs it will take development time away from game-play related features. If you decide that there is more value for you in the jukebox than there is in new features we will shift our focus back to the jukebox.

Regards,

RealX


After reading this thread a little more closely I have to expand upon my last post. Most recent patches have had multiple "What do you think of these proposed changes" threads and I don't recall ever seeing one about this. I just logged on one day to see that my jukebox is gone.

I seem to recall other dev posts (or blogs, or something else that has word written by devs) that sound a lot like this over the walking in stations issue; not being able to put it back due to coding, putting it back would severely hinder future proposed gameplay, and there are no plans to bring station spinning back. Look at it in retrospect and the game seems to be running quite nicely, despite the infamous "locked door" that you have no foreseeable plans to improve upon.

I thought CCP bypassed the publisher model to not deal with churning new content for the masses for the sole purpose of making money. Granted on larger issues I see CCP as still being a community driven company, but it seems that the threshold for something to be a "large issue" seems to be getting bigger and grander since Incarna. Obliviously this isn't going to make me rage enough to quit Eve, and I highly doubt you care that me making myself and my alt accounts get biomassed will affect your company if I did anyway, but it seems that it is more than just myself is angry over this subject. I have also talked to way more people that I can count in game that haven't even heard of Eve Gate or just don't care to use it but are still angry about the removal of the jukebox.

Angry rant over, continue what you do best CCP (including making Eve a community game).
Alduin666 Shikkoken
o7 and Fly Safe!

P.S. If you are saying that you are working on the coding and that is why you can't bring it back, then why haven't I heard anything useful about the new coding like multithreading my CPUs? I want my other 7 cores to be more than head sinks; I don't even use lasers in the first place P

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

munitqua
Perkone
Caldari State
#469 - 2013-08-28 16:29:16 UTC  |  Edited by: munitqua
SIGNED!

Give me back the Jukebox! GIVE IT BACK TO ME! I really miss it!

I also turned the music off the moment they removed the Jukebox!

EDIT: at Least we can listen to it on Soundcloud!

https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/eve-online-in-game-tracks
cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#470 - 2013-08-28 16:42:37 UTC
SIGNED!

BRING IT BACK!

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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#471 - 2013-08-28 16:43:56 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
SIGNED!

BRING IT BACK!

Not today spaghetti.

Thellorms Nor'Fein
Federal Bounty Services
#472 - 2013-08-30 06:17:42 UTC
I sure miss the jukebox. It was a feature that made EVE Online feel more fleshed out. Combined with the tools and the in game browser (which I think could use some work, ahem... youtube), it made EVE Online a real one stop shop and I rarely needed to go back to my desktop, and yeah that's a good thing. Having your own customized playlists was solid.

PLEASE bring the jukebox back CCP, and while your at it, perhaps improve upon it like being able to assign certain playlists to play only when triggering an acceleration gate and stuff like that.

While your at it, check out this guy's music here. His music is inspired by EVE Online and he even takes some tracks and remakes them. After listening to all his EVE Online works, I was left in awe. This is the kind of music we need more of in game. HIRE THIS GUY! Don't get me wrong, I love the EVE classics, but it's old and high time for an update.

Now for something irrelevant, GIVE US A MORE FLESHED OUT WALKING IN STATIONS EXPERIENCE!!! I want to be immersed.

Ahh, Jita... - http://i.imgur.com/UHGT4xc.jpg

FleetAdmiralHarper
Kitchen Sink Kapitals
#473 - 2013-08-30 08:13:57 UTC
ill sign it. i would love my juke box back, it was nice to pick my own music, or listen to what ever eve music i wanted to.. i love below the asteroids and caldari rock.
Baten Alrai
Waking Demons
#474 - 2013-08-30 10:58:24 UTC
Signed.

I'd love to see jukebox back.
DeeeBo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#475 - 2013-08-30 18:01:47 UTC
SIGNED.

BRING IT BACK! I will also sign in with my other 7 accounts/18 toons to add to this petition if need be.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#476 - 2013-08-30 21:08:54 UTC
+1, signed, do want, etc...

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt

He dares
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#477 - 2013-08-31 16:09:31 UTC
Do you really want to waste development time on the "jukebox" when it could be used to do something useful?
SGT FUNYOUN
Elysian Space Navy - 1st Fleet
#478 - 2013-08-31 17:00:53 UTC
+1 to this please.
Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#479 - 2013-09-16 19:26:55 UTC
He dares wrote:
Do you really want to waste development time on the "jukebox" when it could be used to do something useful?

A thousand times yes. There are reasonable things to be done, and jukebox return would make me more happy than, say, marauder rebalance or some different drone mechanics or similar things. It is a kind of everyday little thing to be used, and alttabbing is a terrible idea. Little, unnotable things make a big picture of general experience.
Aversun
Systems Federation
#480 - 2013-09-16 20:44:59 UTC
Shade Alidiana wrote:
He dares wrote:
Do you really want to waste development time on the "jukebox" when it could be used to do something useful?

A thousand times yes. There are reasonable things to be done, and jukebox return would make me more happy than, say, marauder rebalance or some different drone mechanics or similar things. It is a kind of everyday little thing to be used, and alttabbing is a terrible idea. Little, unnotable things make a big picture of general experience.


indeed, afterall, they wasted time on that idiotic spin counter apparently *everyone* wanted :|