Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Warp scramblers. Points don't shut down MWDs, so why should they shut down MJDs? Scrams shut down MWDs, scrams shut down MJDs. It makes far more sense to leave it as it is, and anyway, they would be useless if a single point stopped a MJD, they'd never get used.

Shhh. That's a secret.

Bubbles and bonused long points are supposed to be God.

I am pleased by some of those changes, and not really impressed by other changes (or lack there-off), let me explain why.

You are adding a new module. That is awesome ! And better yet, you're not making it so that the ships you're changing absolutly need it to be effective.

You're allowing Marauders to have a wider range of fittings. That is awesome !

You're removing the web strengh bonuses. That is...not so awesome but I can understand why you did it.

You're not changing the sensor strenght and think that the new module will be the solution. That is not awesome. Please change the sensor strenght to appropriate levels. Ie, regular battleship level. Not super high SS, not super low SS. Regular SS.

You're reducing speed. Alright, I don't know why it would be a massive problem. They were already slow.

You're adding a highslot. Great ! Full PVE Marauders won't care, but regular PVP, non-bastion-using Marauders will have +1 highslot to play with. Smartbomb ? Heavy neut ? Medium neut ? Your choice :)

You're not adding a DPS bonus. Well, I'm not sure about that. See, Marauders will obviously have more tank than the other kinds of battleships right, like the Hyperions/Maelstroms. That means they'll probably engage larger gangs (the kind of tank values they are going to have require +3 opponents). But what comes with larger gangs ? Logistics. You can't EW by yourselve, so you have to break through reps.

A DPS bonus would help with that. But then again it might bring in other problems. Considering the "No RR/EW", I think that it would be balanced to have something like +30% or +50% DPS. I mean, wouldn't make them unbalanced considering the "I'm sitting there for 60 seconds and I can't move".

That's my first feedback, You'll have to wait until we get new EFT files for more feedback ;)

Thank you for breaking my keyboard with the epic face-desk I just did.

ASBs are not being touched by the active tank buff in 1.1. Please read before you post.
Not to mention good luck finishing C6 sites before you run out of cap charges

Not having a bonus from the get-go is fine it becomes your choice to use said ship. However, what happens to those pilots that already use a marauder and now have to bail on it because there are no drones to deal with the tiny ships you just cant hit?

I personally don't use anything above a t3. No need. But I do see other peoples point in this argument.

Mobile weapons platforms. Ahh BoBo hits another one out of the park ahead of its time.
Great idea for this class of ship guys!

So how do you actually kill anything with these in PVP? as they become immobile anything half decent speed can pull range and warp - especially as the kronos and paladin have lost the 90% web bonus, if you've got support to tackle stuff it massively reduces the usefulness of the MJD aside from a GTFO option (tho you'd probably be tackled by that point).

How about make it so that the drone bay is still there but the bandwidth without the module is 0, and when entering it, it gives the ship a +X amount to the bandwidth so that drones can be used but only in bastion mode...

ahh? thoughts?

Now that I look at it again, the drone bay thing is really hideous. The Vindicator has 11 effective turrets and 125mbit drone bandwidth. Please give these at least 100mbit/175m3.

Why would anyone possibly enter bastion for gang pvp?

The tanking bonus prevents you from receiving reps, effectively nerfing your tank. You don't get a damage bonus and the optimal range bonus is pointless because currently large long-range weapon systems already provide all the range you'll ever need. EW immunity is pointless because you're going to be out of EW range. There is no reason at all to enter bastion as it is.

Unless it gives a significant damage bonus, you're just painting yourself a large bullseye and waiting to die, particularly because both scanning and even a dictor burning will cover the distance in less than the 60 seconds bastion takes.


Also: please, please stop bringing out new skills which only apply to one single module and nothing else. It makes a mockery out of the versatility the skill system the game has. Tactical weapon reconfiguration already covers this scenario. "But TWR lowers consumption and bastion consumes nothing!" isn't a viable excuse because covert jump bridges also consume nothing despite needing a skill that reduces consumption trained.


Sure, bastion seems nice for running plexes and anoms but don't try to sell it to us as some sort of pvp feature, at least with this iteration.