Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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You're not a very clever one, are you? Etiher that, or all you've read isthe first few lines of my OP and then my rebuttal.


Explain why this rebalancing would need to occur. Also explain why "hurr physiks" should apply only to transport type ships and not to other ships.

You asked for a ship that can carry 2-4 times more rigged ships than a Carrier. I provided.



One of the defining characteristics of wormholes is the limited nature of the forces you can bring through them. Allowing you to sidestep that limitation has significant consequences.

Yes, a ship causing 1.1B kg in mass to a wormhole to move a maximum of 800M kg of mass is really saving a lot of mass, especially considering all the ship can do is move ships.


I already explained that this would be balanced in that the ship carrier has been relegated to a ship freighter, with no ability other than carrying ships. In addition, I pointed out that the ship carrier could have more mass than a traditional carrier (perhaps in the realm of a dreadnaught). If you're wanting to preserve mass, you might as well fly the BSs through the hole.

Also, this tardis stuff is hilarious. Have you even played EVE for more than 5 minutes? Everything in this game has tardis type **** going on in it. Unless you think 10k m3 of trit coming from 10 m3 of scrap metal doesn't apply. Or how about stations holding hundreds of dreads that are nearly the size of said station? What about containers that are 3k m3 in volume yet contain 3.9k m3 in capacity? How about the fact that a nyx can hold 5 assembled battleships while still having complete combat functionality, even though that capacity is half it's volume?

Your failure to grasp such a simple concept as mass is astounding. A ship designed to carry other ships would have large spaces that are empty, unless occupied by ships. If the ship contains the same volume as a traditional carrier, but drops capacitor banks, electronic conduits, logistic hardpoints, triage hardpoints, etc for ship storage space, then it would be less massive than it's battle hardened sibling.

To put it simply, this ship would be comprised of a large amount of SMB modules with very little capacitor/powergrid/drone bay/cpu modules. You would be sacrificing the massive components intended for battle in exchange for larger volume, lower mass components to carry ships with. In fact, you could simply make the mass of the ship comparable to a dreadnaught, which would be about 1.3B kg. So, in a case where the absolute maximum of 8 BS capacity is selected for the ship carrier, the ship would have 800M kg in ships and 500M kg in ship structure/capacitor bank/jump drive/cpu.

I've stated multiple times that simply doubling the current carrier SMB capacity would be sufficient, but it would be nice to see as much as quadrupling, so long as it's balanced out okay.