EVE General Discussion

Japanese proverb: "When you're away from home, you have no shame."
Ethiopian proverb: "If there is no fear of shame, there is no honor."
American TV commercial: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."

In other words, if nobody that matters is watching, people feel free to let their inner Godzilla loose. Whether or not they actually do that is a matter of personal choice. Or maybe a matter of how big or small their inner Godzilla is. Or how much control they have over it.

Of course, an online society also forms its own social rules. The Godzillas collectively form a set of social/behavior expectations, with rewards and punishments for those who conform and those who don't. Say, some criteria for earning prestige within the community, or some behavior that is considered unacceptably dorkish within the community. Poor Godzilla can never be 100% free, not forever at least.

Arrgh, my epilepsy...!

are you literally twelve

Is that not allowed in eve online?

Going to Fountain was The Mittani's ... last mistake :smugGoblin:

I'm glad I continue to encourage to get you to post.

But I don't understand. My signature is making the same point as the description of the corporation in question which points out that in these games people release emotions and behaviors they wouldn't otherwise do. Are you saying Goons are a bunch of 12 year olds as well.

And from my understanding 12 year olds do not sit around and ponder the quandary of morality.

Certainly those with more refined aptitudes towards pondering the deeper meanings of life think about these things.

And to deny that there isn't any morality in playing a open ended game is just as silly as saying Fable has no morality choice between good and evil gameplay choices.

Certainly this morality isn't on the same par as going out in real life and stealing grandma's social security money, but its probaly on the same morality level as a game of poker in Las Vegas.

Every action you take in life has some moral value in it. Some good, some bad, and course plenty of action with neutral morality as it caues neither harm nor good to others (which is an active choice).

The same applies to social interactions with video games. Its not serious business morality, but its still morality.

And if you like doing nasty things to people in game, it means you sort of like doing nasty things.

I do nasty things to people and I'm not ashamed to say that I do and my in game morality can be considered sort of evil. Why can't you? Or does it bother you that you are a virtual sinner?

I have never understood this debate.

That guy who raged at you in local after you scammed him - were his 'tears' real or was he pretending? Of course they were real, otherwise you wouldn't enjoy doing it.

You negatively affected somebody's emotions. To say 'it doesn't matter because it's not real' is a transparently juvenile defensive position from someone who is uncomfortable with their actions.

EVE is such a good 'game' because it evokes real emotional responses to loss and therefore gain. That's why many of us play it.

I wasn't GRRRRing, I like goons, I even got to enjoy Boat's crazy rants about his diets, classes, etc, made a nice isky on his awox missions. Mittens certainly has a certain eloquence about his speeches, obviously moves possibly the largest navies this game has ever seen. So did Napoleon =)

Damn right.

Whilst playing with matches.