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A crusade for low sec between all empires
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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#1 - 2011-11-12 03:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo Gabriel
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#2 - 2011-11-12 03:46:56 UTC
I wont take you seriously anywhere. Also why do you need a puppet Im sure she needs more respect than that.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#3 - 2011-11-12 03:48:01 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


its not such a bad idea on the surface

but no, thank you. I'm not really interested in being a poster child
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#4 - 2011-11-12 03:50:02 UTC
Also theres the possibility of people just deciding to split the economy

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#5 - 2011-11-12 04:02:19 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


/signed

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#6 - 2011-11-12 04:06:21 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


Prediction of outcome. Even lesser pvp would happen.

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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#7 - 2011-11-12 04:11:05 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I wont take you seriously anywhere. Also why do you need a puppet Im sure she needs more respect than that.



I am honoured you took me seriously before now. Why you won't in the future I have no idea. I am simply trying to get some of the angry but not able to articulate why people and turn them to something useful.

AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#8 - 2011-11-12 04:12:36 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


Prediction of outcome. Even lesser pvp would happen.


Well, I've seen you posting around and if you are trolling you got me... but I'm curious as to why you think there would be LESS? I would think there would be fleets escorting huge groups of haulers through high sec... the whole dynamic of eve would change for the better if the empires were isolated in lowsec. I mean... it sounds like a really good idea to me and I'm just curious why you think there would be fewer ships popping?

Signatures should be used responsibly...
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-12 04:16:38 UTC
Lemme know if this takes off. Been looking at getting a JF, Already have clone rights all over empire. Would suck for the newbies. *yawns*

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#10 - 2011-11-12 04:17:25 UTC
Fox is forgetful, your current transgression will be short lived in my mind.

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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#11 - 2011-11-12 04:17:52 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


Prediction of outcome. Even lesser pvp would happen.


Well, I've seen you posting around and if you are trolling you got me... but I'm curious as to why you think there would be LESS? I would think there would be fleets escorting huge groups of haulers through high sec... the whole dynamic of eve would change for the better if the empires were isolated in lowsec. I mean... it sounds like a really good idea to me and I'm just curious why you think there would be fewer ships popping?



I suspect he thinks people would sit in their little islands and NOT move around.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#12 - 2011-11-12 04:24:53 UTC
Why would less happen?

This estimation was made from small collection of the knowledge of past experinces, hunches, player nature predictability, lack of forsight of the suggester, built in game mechanics, lack of critical thinking of the idea and ultimately not taking account of all sides of the idea and all possible reactions and not taking into the account of what is still wrong with Low Sec.

Net Result Less PVP, Increased Miner activity, Increase number of empire hubs, increased number of businesses, Less intertrade between empires, Amarr becomes one of the more favorable empires due to its massive size alone.

Ultimately instead of making a more interesting pvp zone you just created four different high secs.

So congradulations, go back and rethink it again.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#13 - 2011-11-12 04:25:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Gogela wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
yeah this is the wrong forum, but no one else seems to respect the spoon system so there ...

Make FW connected to the HS pathways from empire to empire region. You want pvp, make it so there is no HS route from Amarr to Jita unless FW pilots can secure one or some other madness.

Let's get REAL PVP here, none of this "oh look they let us kick these guys in the nutz unlike other games, so we call it pvp!"


Prediction of outcome. Even lesser pvp would happen.


Well, I've seen you posting around and if you are trolling you got me... but I'm curious as to why you think there would be LESS? I would think there would be fleets escorting huge groups of haulers through high sec... the whole dynamic of eve would change for the better if the empires were isolated in lowsec. I mean... it sounds like a really good idea to me and I'm just curious why you think there would be fewer ships popping?



I suspect he thinks people would sit in their little islands and NOT move around.


No way. Do you know how much volume moves around this through the empire routes? I mean... to be fair I couldn't fathom a guess... but having just sat in empire choke-points cargo scanning ships... I think it's got to be a crazy huge number. Jita is a hungry market... it needs to feed....

Nova Fox wrote:
Why would less happen?

This estimation was made from small collection of the knowledge of past experinces, hunches, player nature predictability, lack of forsight of the suggester, built in game mechanics, lack of critical thinking of the idea and ultimately not taking account of all sides of the idea and all possible reactions and not taking into the account of what is still wrong with Low Sec.

Net Result Less PVP, Increased Miner activity, Increase number of empire hubs, increased number of businesses, Less intertrade between empires, Amarr becomes one of the more favorable empires due to its massive size alone.

Ultimately instead of making a more interesting pvp zone you just created four different high secs.

So congradulations, go back and rethink it again.



Ah... I see. So it's insanity than... 'nuff said I'll trouble you no more.

Nice deviantart link btw.

o7

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#14 - 2011-11-12 04:29:08 UTC
Oh and a temporary drive up in prices as markets dry up as exports wont be met for a short while but will be eventually met as locals crowd the scene on the rush.

The most major factor of pvp possibly going up in low sec is allainces securing the damn place and thats the last thing I want to see happen.

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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#15 - 2011-11-12 04:30:27 UTC

What I think COULD happen is escort convoys through low sec, who knows. It was an idea, I'll write up something more formal in the F&I forums.

AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Alizandro Goderaski
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#16 - 2011-11-12 04:31:19 UTC
Great idea, it's been floating around for years now, and it's about time someone posted a GD thread about it.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#17 - 2011-11-12 04:31:48 UTC
Please do.

Do heavily consider why there are alot of folks who just dread stepping into low and why forcing them in the past has never worked.

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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#18 - 2011-11-12 04:38:31 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Please do.

Do heavily consider why there are alot of folks who just dread stepping into low and why forcing them in the past has never worked.



Please understand I don't want to FORCE anyone to go anywhere. I want to create incentives. When we (my rl buddies and I) all came to eve from wow, we went in and out of low sec trying to mine, rat etc cause we thought that was where the action was. We learned it was best to stay out and make isk other ways. If there were reasons to go other than to maybe get gate camped, it could open up the field.

BTW to the other poster about the idea being around for a long time, I know I ripped it off from someone I just have no idea who it was as I've been reading here since 2008.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2011-11-12 04:41:01 UTC
It was around since late 2007 I think pvp avid player back then suggested it around the time low sec was beginning to be a problem if I remember right.

If very unfourtunate to know that there is no dynamic sec status change.

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#20 - 2011-11-12 05:18:05 UTC
Lets see what would happen.

All freighter traffic would stop.
Most trade will stop.
perpetual gate camps in the low sec.

yeah good way to kill the game.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
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