Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Do missions with your Corps Standings?

There are ways to restore standings with the pirate factions. Or two of them anyways (Angels and Guristas).

The Angels and Guristas have a series of missions, in a repeatable Epic Arc, (doable in an interceptor or assault frigate), which are accessible by those with bad standing to the relevant faction. Completion of the arc gives you a large standings boost to that faction, which iirc, is big enough to take someone from -10 up to sufficient standing with diplomacy V, that they can then do missions for that faction.


There was talk when those pirate arcs were introduced, that there would be other arcs coming later, for the other pirate factions (Serpentis, Blood Raiders, Sansha? ), but as yet, nothing has been heard or seen since.

I get what you're saying...

When it comes to doing standard faction missions you have the option to pass up missions that could effect your standings with the other factions.

However, if you wish to build standings with a standard faction you HAVE TO **** off a pirate faction.

My suggestion is that pirate factions give you the option to denounce your alligience with the faction to whom you used to **** them off. In doing so it gives you a 0.0 with both the pirates and the standard faction.

So it's assentially saying you made a phone call to the gallente to tell them to eat your sh*t which pissed them off and made you lose all your standing with them, but impressed the pirate faction allowing them to remove any negative standings.

Sounds like a fair trade.

Yeah, it is a bit of a problem. Though, hmm, is it say, Blood Raiders that you wish to do missions for? There is a way to restore blood raider faction standings, through doing missions for their allied factions, (gurista, sansha).

The gurista arc should help you with that, then you could talk to some of the gurista mission runner people to see about doing a few missions to get gurista storylines, which will pull up blood raider faction standing through derived changes.

that is still a terrible roundabout way of doing things, also rather tedious.


for serpentis, the angel cartel arc works in similar way. do that arc, get ability to do missions for angels, do angel storylines, get derived standings for serpentis.

but yes, unless they implement other pirate arcs, then the only way is to do umpteen lvl1 missions for tiny standing rewards.

So for a six month mission newb since you started, you haven't figured out EVE?

Choice and Consequence

The Choice to run for highsec has The Consequence of your actions is being negitive to pirates, even if you didn't know the risks. It isn't "broken" being negitive.


This, this, and that. Train them to 5 ASAP, which amazingly is a week and change just for the first 2. One makes it easier to interact with agents, the other gives better bonus to the standing hits. You think thatts not worth another week? If you want criminal agents you will notice "connections" at the end which is the same thing as "Connection" skill for a select type of mission agents. Train it ASAP. It will cut down on your time grinding missions, the sec status is basicly a bell curve and once you hit about 2.0 positive you will get access to 3 and after that its like 1 week to 4s. Why are you bitching on the forums instead of planning on how to fix the problem? I am thinking its 3 weeks tops to correct the issue, just hit those level 1s (which you had to build from zero for the highsec to begin with) and it will fly by, they are doable in a destroyer and just lock -> pop those frigs.

Also, understand that for running pirate agents the risk will increase vs other players.

edit: Also need to add, I am -10 base and -6 after max skills are considered on the mission runner...notice its a 4.0 point increase. Yeah, not so hard once you dedicate the time to it and even being -1 will still factor as a positive

umpteen level 1 missions + storylines isn't necessarily the problem. It can be done, there's a player by the name of Ghost Hunter who took himself from -10 to close to +10 faction standings with Sansha's Nation. Could try asking him for advice.

the level 1 missions are easy in a destroyer, however, do remember it is nullsec, so there are added difficulties involved compared to highsec, that slow you down.

Can you replace a ship if you lose it? Not just isk, but being able to get modules and so on.
Missions that ask you to go 3j, retrieve an item, are quite a lot more dangerous. If you are shot down, you will have to fail that mission, which incurs a faction standings penalty which takes another storyline mission to restore, before you start improving faction standings again.
If you turn down those missions, and get offered another one, you run into the agent timer, and either have to move, or wait.
If there's reds passing through, missioning isn't something you want to be doing.
The storyline agent(s) and your level 1 agents can be several jumps apart.

iirc, it took ghost hunter a lot more than 3 weeks to get from -10 up to -5 faction standing (which with diplomacy V is -2 and allows you then to accept missions from more than just lvl1)


There is also the Amarr epic arc. Although that has you shooting sanshas for the first 2/3rds, you could get a friend to do that, then in the last 1/3rd there is the possibility to side with Nation, and you should get a faction standings boost to Nation at the end. Repeat that 3 months later, it might work.

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