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Tojo Johnson
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-08-06 23:17:12 UTC
I have a fairly well established PI operation in low sec (0.3 space). There aren't any 0.1 or 0.2 system in my general vacinity so I am considering 0.0 or wormhole space to up my PI yields and try to get some better taxes. I am within 3 jumps of 0.0 but found out that you have to belong to the local alliance to do PI in null. I think that's kinda stupid but it is what it is. Not interested in joining the alliance. So my next thought is PI in WH space. I don't know much about WH space or how it would work logistically since I do my P2 and P3 processing in empire space. Any pointers or guides on this subject?
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-06 23:41:23 UTC
Tojo Johnson wrote:
I have a fairly well established PI operation in low sec (0.3 space). There aren't any 0.1 or 0.2 system in my general vacinity so I am considering 0.0 or wormhole space to up my PI yields and try to get some better taxes. I am within 3 jumps of 0.0 but found out that you have to belong to the local alliance to do PI in null. I think that's kinda stupid but it is what it is. Not interested in joining the alliance. So my next thought is PI in WH space. I don't know much about WH space or how it would work logistically since I do my P2 and P3 processing in empire space. Any pointers or guides on this subject?



Find a C1 WH with good PI, either LS or HS static. Setup inside with a medium POS and move in your army of PI alts.

It has been a long time since i lived in a C1, but i easily made between 2-3 bil a month from PI.

You can average about 300-500mil a week clearing the random combat anoms that show up as well. Logistics can be a bit more difficult as your exit changes daily. But overall even with a LS static you can find a decent exit so often and run your PI to the nearest HS with a blockade runner. I would leave PI all over the place and every so often have a freighter alt autopilot around and pick it up.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#3 - 2013-08-07 09:58:19 UTC
You can try even deeper holes PI when you want decent anoms too. If you have at least two accounts.
Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2013-08-08 18:54:40 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Tojo Johnson wrote:
I have a fairly well established PI operation in low sec (0.3 space). There aren't any 0.1 or 0.2 system in my general vacinity so I am considering 0.0 or wormhole space to up my PI yields and try to get some better taxes. I am within 3 jumps of 0.0 but found out that you have to belong to the local alliance to do PI in null. I think that's kinda stupid but it is what it is. Not interested in joining the alliance. So my next thought is PI in WH space. I don't know much about WH space or how it would work logistically since I do my P2 and P3 processing in empire space. Any pointers or guides on this subject?



Find a C1 WH with good PI, either LS or HS static. Setup inside with a medium POS and move in your army of PI alts.

It has been a long time since i lived in a C1, but i easily made between 2-3 bil a month from PI.

You can average about 300-500mil a week clearing the random combat anoms that show up as well. Logistics can be a bit more difficult as your exit changes daily. But overall even with a LS static you can find a decent exit so often and run your PI to the nearest HS with a blockade runner. I would leave PI all over the place and every so often have a freighter alt autopilot around and pick it up.


While most of what you said is accurate, C1 combat anoms avg 3-15M isk. You're not going to make 300-500M/week running them in a C1.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-09 08:45:35 UTC
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Find a C1 WH with good PI, either LS or HS static. Setup inside with a medium POS and move in your army of PI alts.

It has been a long time since i lived in a C1, but i easily made between 2-3 bil a month from PI.


I can confirm these numbers. Our corp used to live in a C3 and controlled the POCOs, and more recently our Alliance controlled a C1. Depending on your number of alts and your diligence, you can easily pull in LARGE amounts of ISK every month.

As for the sites, unless you have members living in the WH, we'd just let them go to waste. The security of your PI alts is worth more than gathering the attention of WH divers.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-08-09 14:57:56 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
While most of what you said is accurate, C1 combat anoms avg 3-15M isk. You're not going to make 300-500M/week running them in a C1.


My 8 months living solo (with my alts) in a C1, keeping track of my income would say I was in fact being accurate.
Rengerel en Distel
#7 - 2013-08-09 16:07:48 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
While most of what you said is accurate, C1 combat anoms avg 3-15M isk. You're not going to make 300-500M/week running them in a C1.


My 8 months living solo (with my alts) in a C1, keeping track of my income would say I was in fact being accurate.


Perhaps everything that dropped gave more isk than it does now, but unless you're doing 80 anoms a week, you're not pulling that kind of isk.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-09 16:34:24 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
While most of what you said is accurate, C1 combat anoms avg 3-15M isk. You're not going to make 300-500M/week running them in a C1.


My 8 months living solo (with my alts) in a C1, keeping track of my income would say I was in fact being accurate.


Perhaps everything that dropped gave more isk than it does now, but unless you're doing 80 anoms a week, you're not pulling that kind of isk.



Well it was an average over 8 months. Week to week varied widely.

It was also back during a spike in nanoribbon prices. Going from memory i wanna say they were selling at like 8+mil per.

It was also before the introduction to POCO's. At the time I think i was selling coolant at 12k+ per unit.