Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The inherited timer thing would indeed be ideal, but is also not feasible for performance reasons. There are definitely areas of collateral damage caused by a change like that one, but I think the benefits would outweigh the problems.

Well since you seem bent on keeping command ships off grid in fleetfights...

Any chance to move the t3 boost subsystems to another category (offensive preferably to remove the silly cloaky nullified t3 scoutboosters) so we can at least have a less bonused but brick tanked boosting ship on grid without having to fear it getting alphad?

Thanks!

A 60 seconds weapon timer seems like an awful solution to me.

If you're in a fight you don't turn off your hardeners 60 seconds before you jump a gate.

Why?

I acknowledge that bringing another character in a link ship has elements of opportunity cost, but your moves to make links easier to fit on on-grid combat ships (BC utility highslots and fittings, link PG requirements) means that this opportunity cost is now greatly reduced, if existent at all.

For example, in my alliance's spacewang match in the tournament, we were initially faced with the choice of bringing a dedicated multi-link Prophecy or Myrmidon, or not bringing links at all. The opportunity cost a having a character in a dedicated multi-link ship was painful for a 12-man composition entirely focused on DPS, but passing up the 28% speed bonus from a mindlinked pilot was intolerable for a close-range blaster fleet, particularly when an ODI II gives only 12.5% speed.

Then we noticed that we could shove links on two Brutixes, while retaining 900 DPS from a rack of neutrons. We were able to have our cake and eat it, the opportunity cost was now minimal! So, given that viable combat ships can now fit links without significant sacrifice, I don't see what's so special about requiring the extra pilot, particularly when the magnitude of the bonuses makes links as close to mandatory as any module.

But you do with reppers.

Which you know.. Way more like links than hardeners.

I guess you'll just have to bring multiple link boats, and if one dies, move a new guy into the appropriate position in fleet. I'm okay with that.

Who would be stupid enough to bring on-grid links if they get 60second weapon timers every cycle they're active?
Answer: small gangs of younger players looking to execute cunning tactics of brawling what they can then timing their deaggro escape, via RR.

Everyone else will bring off-grid link alts, or just blob with enough dps & logi to not need to deaggro.

The logi-style inherit-fleet/FC's/chain-of-command's timers is the only sane way to bring in such a mechanism until links are on-grid. Until then, off-grid they remain.

Especially if the most mobile & highest utility link-ships would cost you SP every time your gang failed to keep you alive during a deaggro without the assistance of the very links you've squeezed on for such an action.


As ever, shield kiting setups simply don't need concern themselves with such silly ways to die, they just pull range with links still on, & warp out. It's a nerf to armour involving active/RR tanking. I don't think that's needed, seeing as you're trying to buff related modules & rigs, cheers.

How aboutyou only get a pvp timer when you activate boosts. That way you can still run the links while deaggroing but if you try to log your ogb it will remain in space for the duration of the timer.

But that doesnt solve the neutral boosts on gates/stations.....

wouldnt it be more... interesting if the Mining Mindlink was only available from Outer Ring Exavations? They are THE mining npc after all.