Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Great direction but nerfing the value of the higher end mods is really screwing a lot of people out of a lot of isk. No, I don't have any but this is an effect that needs to be considered.

The problem with that is, when all the numbers are boiled down armor and shields rep about the same amount of HP in the same amount of time for about the same amount of cap.
The big difference is, shields will also passive regenerate during this.

Guristas line Boost = Base Boost [t1] * 1.05 ^ meta-level
Angel line Activation Cost = Base Activation Cost[t1] / 1.05 ^ meta-level

Smooth out them anomolies

Wolf, when you decide to start talking real fits, that's fine, but no abaddon is going to go self repping for over 6k hp/s.

Abbadon's pitiful cap recharge makes it not even worth bothering with surely

I know, and no one woudl spend 6 bil pimping it to tank those amounts, it however can do that, which is important as that blinged out generic shield fits get compared to t2 armour tankers and deemed op while the blinged armour tank never gets mentioned.

Yes, since the 15% is to the base amount of armor repaired.

If your repper repairs 1000 armor now, unfit, with no bonuses applied to it, it will repair 1150 armor post-change. At this point any skills and bonuses will stack on top of that, including any modules and rigs that affect the amount.

At zero ISK .. where do you shop?

When it comes to pew one must make one's assumptions based on what is realistic/feasible/cost effective .. and unless one is a Russian oligarch or an American banker with a PLEX selling network that fit is .. hmmmmmm.

Pretty easy to sort this out. i'm using large/XL in this example with the best in class mods


Type - Amount - Cycle (secs) - Amount per Second - Amount per Cap

T2 Armor - 800 - 15 - 53.33 - 2
T2 Armor 1.1 - 920 - 15 - 61.33 - 2.3
ARR - 1350 - 15 - 90 - 3.375
ARR 1.1 - 1552.5 - 15 - 103.5 - 3.88
True S - 900 - 15 - 60 - 2
True S 1.1 - 1035 - 15 - 69 - 2.3
CorpX - 1260 - 15 - 84 - 2.8
CorpX 1.1 - 1449 - 15 - 96.6 - 3.22

T2 Shield L - 240 - 4 - 60 - 1.5
T2 Shield L 1.1 - 276 - 4 - 69 - 1.73
CN L - 240 - 3.2 - 75 - 1.5
CN L 1.1 - 276 - 3.2 - 86.25 - 1.73
ASB L - 390 - 4 - 97.5 - NA
PithX - 336 - 3.2 - 105 - 2.1

T2 Shield XL - 600 - 5 - 120 - 1.5
T2 Shield XL 1.1 690 - 5 - 138 - 1.73
CN XL - 600 - 4 - 150 - 1.5
CN XL 1.1 - 690 - 4 - 172.5 - 1.73
ASB XL - 980 - 5 - 196 - NA
PithX - 840 - 4 - 210 - 2.1

Not sure if its clear but for Faction and T2 things are fairly balanced , Shields use more Cap but booster more and sooner. But of these are all getting a boost.

Then look at ASB vs AAR, the current ASB L beats the AAR in boost amount, boosting straight away and cap use (none). After the changes the AAR boosts slightly more but still use cap and boosts at the end the cycle and lets not even talk about the XL ASB.

DS L Mods look OK, a DS L mod boosts more than a DS L Armour Mod but uses more cap (true before and after the buff). XL however becomes an Issue as the XL boosts over double the DS Armour mod

Then through Amps into the equation and stuff shifts towards shields.

Edit.

I have a mission Paladin with an X type rep and a Friend has a Golem with X type booster+Amp . Each with 2X Resist mods (2x type hardeners)

He uses 85 cap per second and reps 1417 DPS vs sansha, I rep 700DPS vs Sansha and use 75. Now i must admit that his ship does not have great Cap regen but as far as the mods go the Booster is a lot more efficient not to mention that his ship has a 0 base resist against EM while mine as a base of 50.

Then how do you balance deadspace and faction items.