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AFK Cloaking Collection Thread

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Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#621 - 2013-08-06 19:35:05 UTC
Well, I bump this topic, AFK cloacking is one of the BIG PROBLEMS of this game.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#622 - 2013-08-06 19:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Malissa Radort wrote:
Well, I bump this topic, AFK cloacking is one of the BIG PROBLEMS of this game.
Why is AFK Cloaking a problem?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#623 - 2013-08-06 20:20:05 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Malissa Radort wrote:
Well, I bump this topic, AFK cloacking is one of the BIG PROBLEMS of this game.
Why is AFK Cloaking a problem?



You have 32 pages to understand if you really want.
But you're a troll.
Ah and stop like your topic with your alt. ;)
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#624 - 2013-08-06 20:22:26 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Malissa Radort wrote:
Well, I bump this topic, AFK cloacking is one of the BIG PROBLEMS of this game.
Why is AFK Cloaking a problem?



You have 32 pages to understand if you really want.
But you're a troll.
Ah and stop like your topic with your alt. ;)

Oh no, that would be me liking his posts.

I find he uses logic, and I wish to encourage active thinking.

If you post something intelligent, I will endorse you as well.

Try it!

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Mag's
Azn Empire
#625 - 2013-08-06 20:28:19 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Malissa Radort wrote:
Well, I bump this topic, AFK cloacking is one of the BIG PROBLEMS of this game.
Why is AFK Cloaking a problem?



You have 32 pages to understand if you really want.
But you're a troll.
Ah and stop like your topic with your alt. ;)
So you're wrong again. You're not doing too well are you.

I'm starting to see a pattern here and may see why you are struggling with life in null.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#626 - 2013-08-06 20:33:49 UTC
WoW.
Your life by being afk on a system... So exiting.

No skill for roam legit?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#627 - 2013-08-06 20:41:42 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
WoW.
Your life by being afk on a system... So exiting.

No skill for roam legit?
Was there any question or facts in that post, or are you now simply flapping your proverbial gums?

P.S. What mechanic is being used and the reason why AFKing exists? I doubt you'll answer correctly.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Xio Zheng
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#628 - 2013-08-06 20:45:06 UTC
Actually what I said was after 10 mins without warping your just scanable by a very specific type of probe. You stay cloaked. Your attempt to understand it was very admirable.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#629 - 2013-08-06 20:49:07 UTC
Xio Zheng wrote:
Actually what I said was after 10 mins without warping your just scanable by a very specific type of probe. You stay cloaked. Your attempt to understand it was very admirable.
And that idea is nothing new, nerfs cloaks and doesn't solve these people's problem.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#630 - 2013-08-06 20:51:46 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Xio Zheng wrote:
Actually what I said was after 10 mins without warping your just scanable by a very specific type of probe. You stay cloaked. Your attempt to understand it was very admirable.
And that idea is nothing new, nerfs cloaks and doesn't solve these people's problem.


Well, and why?
With this solution (after 1hour can be better i think) they will stop to go sleed or work with a char connected.

It's one of the 20 solutions.
And it's a good one.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#631 - 2013-08-06 20:58:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Malissa Radort wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Xio Zheng wrote:
Actually what I said was after 10 mins without warping your just scanable by a very specific type of probe. You stay cloaked. Your attempt to understand it was very admirable.
And that idea is nothing new, nerfs cloaks and doesn't solve these people's problem.


Well, and why?
With this solution (after 1hour can be better i think) they will stop to go sleed or work with a char connected.

It's one of the 20 solutions.
And it's a good one.
It's nothing new. This means it's been suggested before and it is not a new idea.

It nerfs cloaks. Any change that reduces the effectiveness of modules, means a nerf. Cloaks are meant to be a stealth module, if you can probe them, they are no longer stealth.

This is one of many solutions to a problem that doesn't have anything to do with a cloak, which makes it a bad one. If you wish to solve AFKing, then fix the mechanic being used.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#632 - 2013-08-06 21:05:14 UTC
People on this topic JUST want see AFK Players ghostcampers not "invulnerable" cause it's destroying the game on 0.0.

If you have to be on your computer to keep it active, the Module continue to be so powerfull, No?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#633 - 2013-08-06 21:08:52 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
People on this topic JUST want see AFK Players ghostcampers not "invulnerable" cause it's destroying the game on 0.0.

If you have to be on your computer to keep it active, the Module continue to be so powerfull, No?
Invulnerable? If you mean whilst they are cloaked you cannot hurt them, then doesn't that go both ways?

If you wish to stop AFKing, then ask for the mechanic being used to be nerfed. Cloaks are not the reason and are balanced.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#634 - 2013-08-06 21:11:40 UTC
And witch solutions your proposed? Auto log off by no activity?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#635 - 2013-08-06 21:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Malissa Radort wrote:
And witch solutions your proposed? Auto log off by no activity?
I like the status quo. But if there were to be changes, then the mechanic responsible should be nerfed and then and only then, should we look at cloak balancing. It could even come in a package of changes.

Edit: Oh and auto log off systems don't work. Way to easily bypassed without breaking the EULA. I'm also not sure CCP would even want that, they like bums on seats so to speak.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#636 - 2013-08-06 21:22:11 UTC
Mag's wrote:
...they like bums on seats so to speak.


LOL bums on seats!

Wait... who are you calling a bum??

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

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Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#637 - 2013-08-06 21:23:17 UTC
Yeah, when mates tell me "why don't auto log off"
And i answer CCP failed by keeping Bots farming... so impossible with that...

If you see a solution without nerfing Cloacking, tell it ;)
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#638 - 2013-08-06 21:33:35 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
If you see a solution without nerfing Cloacking, tell it ;)


The solution is that there is no problem so no solution is required...

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

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Malissa Radort
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#639 - 2013-08-06 21:37:45 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Malissa Radort wrote:
If you see a solution without nerfing Cloacking, tell it ;)


The solution is that there is no problem so no solution is required...


Read 1st page and other topics, understand and stop troll.

Next?
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#640 - 2013-08-06 22:48:01 UTC
Malissa Radort wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Malissa Radort wrote:
If you see a solution without nerfing Cloacking, tell it ;)


The solution is that there is no problem so no solution is required...


Read 1st page and other topics, understand and stop troll.

Next?


Just a point of fact....

I created this thread a collection of threads for nerfing cloaks that are bad. Not good. I'd either recommend the status quo or nerfing the mechanic that is really causing the problem here, then looking at re-balancing cloaks or even doing both at the same time.

So I'm firmly with Mag's.

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