Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That, and the fact that Astarte actually has two launcher slots.

why would you use a long point on a brawling blaster ship

What's this setup good for?

You've got a "super tank" that's fed by a single medium cap booster

You've got low dps highlighted by the loss of a relative turret from fozzies changes AND no dmg mod

You're easy to kite, just as most any medium/small blaster ship.


In the end, I see a setup that's good for one thing. Station game trolling in high sec.

all your fits for astarte are great but Fozzie and his nighthawk... http://i.imgur.com/YoVwqbt.jpg

This. One of the reasons I chose to skill up for a Nighthawk early on as a newish EVE player was to get into a missile boat that didn't have the ugly-as-sin, dull-as-drying paint, flying brick of a hull.

Now there is no escape; if you want a BC sized missile ship, you're stuck piloting a brick in space. I love my Caldari ships, but their builders seriously need a course in design aesthetics!

Looking only at the defensive bonus type, I think most people would feel happier with something like this:

Gallente field command: +% to armor repairer amount
Gallente fleet command: +% to armor resists

Amarr field command: +% to armor repairer speed (cycle reduction)
Amarr fleet command: +% to armor resists

Minmatar field command: +% to shield booster amount
Minmatar fleet command: +% to shield resists

Caldari field command: +% to shield base regen
Caldari fleet command: +% to shield resists

The actual percentages would need to be fine-tuned, and the field command defensive bonuses could move around (ex., maybe give more shield regen to Minmatar and better shield boosting to Caldari, or replace the base shield regen bonus with a shield booster cycle duration, etc.), but the general idea is:

Field command ships: better bonus for small gangs (local repair, self-reliant)
Fleet command ships: better bonus for fleets (resists, rely on remote reps)

Faster cycles don't make you use more cap. You spend the same amount of cap per cycle, and repair faster. If you're leaving your reps on indefinitely when you're at 100%, that kind of falls into "L2P issues".

Ok, that covers one instance while ignoring all other situations in which the bonus is actually useful, basically any time you are under more DPS than the reps could handle unbonused. If you aren't using more cap you aren't taking advantage of the bonus.

THIS!!!! also +1 (that means i liked it)

I keep saying it over and over. THERE IS NOT A FIX FOR LOCAL REP VS RESIST. That's right, it's time to get past it.
This idea is a perfect way to handle the Racially unique aspect of each race, while also keeping them in line with each other somewhat. Maybe a bit less on the Caldari vs Minmatar side but hey it's a start.

Each race needs a ship in each class that can compete against the other races on each level of play. Most specifically Large fleet battles. There is no replacement for resist bonuses when it comes down to it. It's the only thing that increases life expectancy and also increases incoming Shield and Armor Logicstics effectiveness.

This issue is one of those things where you keep throwing adjustments and modules and limitless amounts of time at, but no matter how much you do there will always be a disparity because you're trying to balance apples with oranges.


No matter how you look at it, if you use a Repairer with this bonus, you ARE taking advantage of the bonus. How do i justify that you may ask. Well it's because of the nature of Armor Repairers. The thing about Armor Reps is that they're designed to give you your repair at the END of the cycle. This means that even if you run your rep in single cycles where you repair at exactly the same frequency as an unbonused rep, you still are given greater effect as your rep comes sooner. This also gives you the option to burst rep by turning your lasers off for a moment and allowing your rep to cycle a few times. Also it may be note worthy to know that cycle reduction provides greater Repair per second than does increase repair amount.