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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#1 - 2013-08-02 13:44:33 UTC
Cloaking, iirc, came from star trek & specifically the klingons. Klingon warships could shoot at targets while cloaked, the trade off was much lower defenses{no shields/armor}
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#2 - 2013-08-02 13:53:39 UTC
So what exactly is your idea? Why is it needed? What are the downsides? How would you balance this idea? How do you think it should be implemented?

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Luc Chastot
#3 - 2013-08-02 13:54:13 UTC
Are you being serious?

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#4 - 2013-08-02 14:01:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Evangelina Nolen
So what exactly is your idea? Firing while cloaked.

Why is it needed? To silence the farming carebears

What are the downsides? Sheer terror & emergent gameplay causing tears.

How would you balance this idea? 0.0 & w-space only, no shield & armor tank. Always appear on dscan with range.

How do you think it should be implemented? They can see you once u start shooting but you don't appear on the overview. In order to be targeted, they have to click ur boat and then lock target.
Deathwing Reborn
#5 - 2013-08-02 14:38:06 UTC
I would be ok with this. The only problem with your analogy is that there are other drawbacks to that in the Star Trek universe.

1. They had to warp at slower speeds.
2. They had the drawback of not being able to fly through gases or nebula.
3. Ships could guess where the ship was by where the shots were coming from and shoot back. (we cant because we have to lock)
4. Most ships with cloaks had some disadvantage to them allowing them to be discovered if you knew what you were looking for and were actually looking make it possible to scan down a cloaked ship.
5. probably more things im not thinking of at the moment.


You give us the ability to scan down cloaked ships and fire at them while cloaked and give them more disadvantages than they have now and I would let you shoot cloaked.
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-08-02 14:42:30 UTC
Romulans had the cloaking device before the Klingons, and they had to decloak in order to shoot...

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Yin Jian Enterprises
#7 - 2013-08-02 14:44:12 UTC
Deathwing Reborn wrote:
I would be ok with this. The only problem with your analogy is that there are other drawbacks to that in the Star Trek universe.

1. They had to warp at slower speeds.
2. They had the drawback of not being able to fly through gases or nebula.
3. Ships could guess where the ship was by where the shots were coming from and shoot back. (we cant because we have to lock)
4. Most ships with cloaks had some disadvantage to them allowing them to be discovered if you knew what you were looking for and were actually looking make it possible to scan down a cloaked ship.
5. probably more things im not thinking of at the moment.


You give us the ability to scan down cloaked ships and fire at them while cloaked and give them more disadvantages than they have now and I would let you shoot cloaked.



The Enterprise was also able to force a de-cloak of an enemy ship in at least one movie.

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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#8 - 2013-08-02 15:42:20 UTC
Get a room people, this is the forum for Eve nerds.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#9 - 2013-08-02 16:55:26 UTC
You should go play STO. They have the gameplay you are looking for.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2013-08-02 17:20:04 UTC
FFS...only 1 Klingon Bird of Prey had the ability to fire cloaked... and it was a prototype that uber-WTFBBQd by a ship full of senior citizens and a ship manned by a Captain who was a little 'light in the service boots'.

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Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2013-08-03 07:06:45 UTC
Luc Chastot wrote:
Are you being serious?


I don't think it is any more daft than the nerf cloak threads.... P

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Narcotic Gryffin
Galloglas
#12 - 2013-08-03 07:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Narcotic Gryffin
A more realistic proposal would be saying you briefly decloak ( as a mechanic not forced) when bombers launch their bombs, in that brief moment they can be targeted to break the cloak and they don't have to deal with the strategy of quick warp off because if they aren't targeted quickly enough it auto recloaks ( always felt that was dumb).

To me its the only viable version of what you are trying to (seriously?) propose.

Edit: Rethinking it cloaking really needs no change, mine proposal being the only viable thing I can thing of as a modification. It would be god awful if someone could target paint you cloaked and have a bunch of cloakers firing missiles at you.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-08-03 10:00:14 UTC
Sometimes I think people post cloaking ideas simply because they know everybody and their grandmother is going to reply to it
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#14 - 2013-08-03 11:09:32 UTC
The question that I have is: If you shoot someone cloaked, is it actually an offense?

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