Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Also a little confused the mindlinks are T2 atm and you are adding T1 links what will the difference be?
ah you are not adding T1 just navy links how strange why?

I love these changes. A welcome relief from the HAC thread.

Oh, but kick the mining bonuses out of POSes too. It's only fair.

what's with the increasing of lock ranges and scan resolution?
do we need to boost all ships lock time and range for some reason?

what is wrong with you

Also could you rename siege warfare to shield warfare please? like armoured warfare...

Interdiction nerf is heavy. Will there be any changes to recons and EAF's to compensate? Or are these ships being nerfed on purpose? All that encouragement to build snipe HACs with the long range gun and HAC changes; counter pointed by forcing the lach and huggin out in front of the fleet.

Please, consider the aggro issue: links help other ships in the same way logis did before the aggro mechanics changes. Neutral links are basically unfightable in empire. They should draw aggro in the same way as logi ships do now. Let us fight them!

Currently, even if you went to the length of developing whatever is needed to make them work on grid only, nothing would change in highsec apart from the fact of being able to see the link ship on grid for a little while - until its work is done and it cloaks... Let us fight it as soon as it draws aggro and there will be MOAR explosions, MOAR t3 stuff needed from wormspace, MOAR tears from pathetic "soloers", all Very Good Things!

i have been in several discussiong about it ranging from new destroyer SubCommand ships to the effects of moving rorquals and orcas into the field as they are. tons of posts out there if u search it.

command can orbit the pos and be protected by the guns or orbit stations. myself, i will be ongrid busting things up.
some of the new changes are wicked, especially the reduction in cost for links.
its not the same losing a harby with a t1 implant vs a rorqual with a t2 mining implant. theres about a 4 bill difference.

once everything else gets balanced (rorquals and orcas), we will see how they work. but for only forcing the rorqual to be in seige mode to boost and not forcing all other command ships is wrong, so, as of now, they can still boost in pos.

these command ships run electronics. these modules interface with each other. they help with fire control solutions or whatever. we have them now in the navy. our ships link up to help from being jammed, help guild missiles if one of the ships becomes jammed and so forth.
example:
ship 1 is jammed
ship 2 is not, but out of missiles
ship 3 is a target and its radar is broke.

ship 1 can fire a missile, ship 2 control it to intercept the missile flying at ship 3.
this is modern technology (not internet spaceships).

to do this though, they have to be within a certain range. the grid in eve is MUCH larger than the actual size of or the area needed to be occupied in rl. great...they have actually advanced over time.

the orca and rorqual are much larger and have far more power t put forth to control the mining fleets.
these are cap ships not bc.

until we get other things changed, this is actually a great solution.

so sorry, no rorqual km for j00 today.
this miner/pvper will collect YOUR tears today...

We could compare killboards, show off our epeens, and the like, but I don't think that's necessary. I have a lot of small gang and solo experience, and am familiar with "how eve works". When taking on "larger numbers", force multiplication becomes extremely important: Logistics improve your ability to tank the enemy dps; EWAR reduces their effective DPS, increases your own, or removes ships from the fight; and boosters give significant boosts to your ship attributes to further reduce their dps, improve your own repping abilities, and give you some serious tactical advantages.

The truth is, a booster is far more potent than that +1 log, or +1 falcon. The bonuses it gives to everyone in fleet are simply way over the top, and are quite often pragmatically uncounterable! Add to that, your opponent is more likely to "discount' the extra benefits they give you, so the risk adverse PvPBears are more likely to engage as they think they have the upper hand. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that fleet boosters are in a balanced position. This is especially prevalent in FW space, where OGB'ing is so ubiquitious people think proper soloing involves a dps ship + a loki alt + a tengu/legion alt. At the small gang (<7) and solo level it becomes very difficult to compete without bringing your own boosts, because a single boosting ship essentially adds the equivalent of 10 free rigs (4x hardener rigs, 3x speed rigs, 4x rep rigs, and partridge in a pear tree), to every ship in the fleet. That is why it is boosts need nerfed, as you can't possibly justify that level of boosting without pissing the face of game balance!

A falcon, a Logi, or even a +1 dps on grid is counterable, attackable, and vulnerable. And while those are fare less subtle force multipliers (or additions), especially since real threats are likely to be primaried, they are very much within the scope of game balance. OGBers are NOT!!!!!

The changes look good.

Please consider the following:

• Allow Battlecruisers to fit two Gang Links without a Command Processor


• Allow T3 cruisers to fit no more than two Gang Links.

This would encourage wider use of Gang Links outside of cloaked T3s, which has become the norm, and provide BCs as a better stepping stone to flying Command Ships.

Thanks!