Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Noes, PI is already a passive/little effort isk printing machine, no need for more buffs.

Having not only more resources to pull from in lowsec/null/wh, but also usually having a lower tax rate are big enough driving factors to push PI out of highsec. If these reasons are not good enough for you, then skill up for a blockade runner, or join a corp that frequents systems outside of highsec.

If you use market to sell things to other players then that is ISK distribution (and ISK sink thanks to taxes) and not ISK printing. It is ISK printing only if ISK comes out of NPC bounties, orders, or any other NPC source(read out of nowhere).

Yeah - you see this is quite interesting. I'm seeing these figures a lot for PI. You are making between half a billion and three quarter billions a month? How many characters is that with? Or is this just something you've, (like me), heard quoted before? Because I PI on 5 characters in 0.1 and 0.2 systems and I make 400Million on a good month. My product selection is POS Fuel components (robotics, extra mechanical parts and Enriched Uranium (0.3 system) ) and Nanite Paste, (am I doing it wrong with those?).

Now I can increase my output if I was to change my extractors from 7 days to 1 day. Maybe I could up my "ISK printer" to double or tripple or even more than what it currently is. . . . But then you say it's a passive income. To take my mammoths out there (5 hops) - fix the extractor cycles - maybe move the heads - scoop up the stuff - move it between characters as needed - and fly it all back takes about 45 minutes (call it an hour for the round trip to the local trade hub). That's not passive. If I upped my extractors to 24 hours I'd spend upward of 5 and a half hours a week on PI. That would be my entire EvE play time. Yeah I might make the sum's you talk about - but not on 1 account and it would be the only thing I did with my EvE time - pretty exhausting for a passive activity.

To the OP - I don't agree with your suggestion - because the amount of stuff to extract on the lower lo-sec security planets is so massive - you don't need as many heads - so you do technically get much more CPU and PG already.

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I do PI on 4 characters in a 0.4 and a 0.3 system, and I make a minimum of 400mil net per month; sometimes it creeps closer to 500. I make only 3 things, and I have carefully selected planets that have a 5% tax rate, that being the lowest I could find. My setups all run on a 23 hour cycle, and I can run them from anywhere in my general operational area. It takes me literally about 4 hours per month to maintain this and haul it all out to a high sec collection point, and that includes rejiggering the extractor heads every couple of weeks. Biggest thing is just maintaining it, and staying regimented. 3-350mil is average gross for three or four alts doing PI in lowsec. You're already on the realistic high end for most k-space without special tax rates, so I dunno what you could do differently.

Along with all the good reasons stated above I'd like to add that PI in High-sec is almost a waste of time with the massive amount of tax rate from customs offices. Add to that the decreased volume you get anyway from having to share your PI with a large volume of people (because its high-sec so its safer/easier) and having to run cycles on shorter and shorter times to get more.

If anything, the PI in high-sec should get buffed, not nerfed. I can't speak for low/null - sec, but what you are proposing would kill PI in high-sec. Personally, me and my corp mates only use PI to manufacture, its not worth it anymore to just go and sell it.