Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would pay ISK to see this happen in Jita....

Since I'm out of horribad ideas on how to unbalance the game regarding cloaks and local....bump.

Having to Deactivate POS shields for at least 20 seconds everytime you leave or enter a POS.

Having to pay a docking fee for every 10 minutes you stay docked at a station.

Guided capital bombs with 14AU range!

Remove all star gates from 0.0 sov holders can build their own, all the other guys have to use a special module to directly warp to stars in only adjacent systems.

Give local only to sov holders, give cloaky ships a special module to spy on special 0.0 local chat without anyone noticing.

Let us set up mining POSes in belts that mine crap automatically

Let us hire automated NPC haulers from belt to station.



Take your pick, I whipped them up, just for you.

I support that! Wartargets shouldn't be able to evade combat. Being engaged in a war should have consequences!

I sent Nikk and Eve-mail today and Evegate cloaked most of the text.

I demand CCP does something about this ASAP.

You sir, are a man of incredible wit and perspicacity.

Why do cloaks need some arbitrary limit on how long they are allowed to operate before they have to give away their presence?

And why is it that you idiots never consider what this does to wormholes before you vomit the same goddamn thing onto the forums over and over again?

+1 in favor of removing the perma cloaking in systems as it is now.

I am fine having people spy cloaked on a system, but they should be interacting with the game when doing so, and there should some risks involved. In short, players that want to stay cloaked should have a game mechanic to force them to be in the game.

The solution of increasing cap cost when cloaking is my favorite solution, with a time frame of around one hour or so of security before the game pushes you to in the risk zone (add some randomness aspect as to the duration to avoid automatisms..)

Boo hoo, whine whine

No one fits tackle on a covops. And if they do, you should be able to kill them easily, covops are very squishy and die in seconds with drones. Why are you even ratting with hostiles in system? That's like trying to count all the money in your wallet when you know a thief is looking at you.

I started out days old. But I flew smart. Frankly, you don't have to be smart to avoid covert cloakers. FFS stop whining, and if you have a problem with cloakers, set up countermeasures - bubble gates with cans to decloak, etc etc. But FFS stop whining on the forums for some sort of "easy" mode so you can do your carebear ratting in nullsec.



"How horrible, a covert recon ship made for covert cynos and reconnaissance is actually dropping me while i try to carebear in null! Blasphemy CCP i will now cancel my sub"

"Why are you even ratting with hostiles in your system?"

Obviously you don't know what thread you're in, because turns out when there's a possibly active red waiting with a cyno in seemingly every system in your area. Now to that, I know someone like you would say, well move systems! And this is the part where you totally ignore the fact that everyone in system could move their pve/mining assets to the next system over, taking a cumulative decent amount of time. Then the SB spends 2 minutes moving over there and it's the same problem. Do you not see the unbalanced action vs. reaction of the two sides in this? One character (requiring only a few weeks of training and can be a single character alt) can disrupt entire systems into moving and then simply disrupt them again with minimal effort and whilst doing this remain completely safe. This would be all well and good unless you look at all the other balancing in the game. When something is high reward (i.e. disrupting an entire system), it needs to be high risk.

pve/mining in low/null sec is high reward -> can be ganked by cynos and fast ships (also, 10second system scanner is now at 0 seconds btw)
titans can one shot a dread -> slow as balls and need an entire support fleet to be effective at the least
dreads are great damage for the isk spent -> can't move while in siege mod and can be one shot by a titan
wormholes are insane moneymaking tools -> can't see anyone in local

Yet, 23 hour logged in cloaky -> 30 million isk, 2 weeks training, reward is almost infinite.

"bubble gates with cans to decloak"

So that the single stealth bomber can sneak through just once and then the bubbles act as a blockade for friendly forces for him to use? .You do realise how many cans you have to put on a gate to completely, not to mention someone has to sit there 24 hours a day waiting for them to come in, while the cloaky only has to come in once and he can remain there almost indefinitely choosing when he wants to actually interact with players on his own terms.

The funny thing about these threads is that while so many against the anti-cloaky threads are saying the carebears are whining and harden up. Yet it seems to me that people against balancing in this case are pretty damn defensive about it too. I wonder why? Could it be that they may be set to lose their easiest way to get kills, disrupt systems and just troll.

Everyone knows eve is a game where harden the **** up is a common motto. But it's not always there 100% of the time. Sometimes people need to have a little bit of understanding of balancing issues from a neutral standpoint. I'm sure everyone who owned a titan didn't want the DD to be nerfed. Yet they did it anyway. And that's why they aren't used nearly as much as supercarriers these days. Then people had problems with supercarriers, so they nerfed them too. Just because there are people like some of you guys in this thread denying a problem, doesn't mean there isn't one. It might just mean that you're on the opposite side of it. I'm sure if something turned a legitimate playing style of yours into having to basically work a full time job just to evade a few newbie level skillpoint players, you would have a whinge too.