Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Funny, I could have sworn there was a massive war in nullsec in which one side was winning strategically without deploying supers

Also didn't a funny thing happen to some PL supers in lowsex? It's not like this stuff can't be dealt with

or the option to remotely self destruct the pos tower with Doomsday Splash Damage for 200km

forgot to add....

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You guys lied and betrayed us before, indeed I'm only in lowsec because I couldn't be in null sec after Pandemic Legion betrayed us and refused to change their decision. Nice work there, making a dead area thrive then killing it again because you thought we might have been sitting on an r64. We weren't, as you will know by now.

But yes, I have no business being in lowsec. I should be in nullsec, merrily mining and working out the most efficient way to build things. But instead I am typing on forums, wondering whether I should cancel all of my accounts, not just some of them.

And for the record yes, Pandemic Leigon cannot be trusted, even if you paid them. They will betray you without a second thought, and the whole "we don't own sov" thing is rubbish - they control access points to entire reigons, that they don't pay sov bills just means they are confident their cap fleets can defend their stations without needing iHubs to shield them, not that they do not *in reality* control huge parts of nullsec. Only their de-facto renter alliance members are permitted to play there, so when you go through dead systems and wish there was pvp there, don't blame me, blame alliances like PL.

Oh and to the Pandemic Leigon guys - you rather just proved the point of why CCP needs to redo the nullsec map and indeed the entire mecahnics of nullsec. When your own players are moving to lowsec and professing intent to play there (and on an individual level I have no reason to believe the player was lying) - it rather reinforces the point that the powerful nullsec alliances have succeeded in making nullsec so boring that their own players no longer wish to live there.

If nullsec was thriving and vibrant, and the location of the end-game of pvp and fun, then everyone wouldn't be moving to lowsec / highsec. Think about it.


Oh, and yes, I do expect that inside 2 years CCP will permit carriers to be used in highsec. They just made them a lot easier to get into the hull, just wait and watch the game go more and more and MORE over to highsec no-pvp themepark. And if you don't liek it, tough - the rich powerful alliances have shaped this game, as is appropriate in a sandbox. BUt the game still does not get to 100,000 concurrent users, not even close, despite 10 years of effort. Commercially, it's kind of a dog, really. I still love EVE, but it has huge issues that flow from bad design calls - one of the most glaring of which is that poor quality systems are conceptually there to be peoples "homes"; yet in reality they are nothing more than time wasters as everyone warps to the out gate to jump 8 - 15 systems to MAYBE get one pvp encounter in nullsec. Pathetic waste of time for players and wasted design opportunity.

So Pandemic Leigon - if CCP do things like hard cap how many stations any alliance can own, how many capitals can be in a system, or simply ban capitals from lowsec entirely ... get over it. There really are likely to be significant design changes made, because let's be honest, currently nearly every one of the large alliances sets up their gameplay to *avoid* pvp. Taking a dozen capitals into a lowsec system 15 minutes before downtime so that there is no time for anyone else to drop your fleet, and the locals have absolutely no chance to threaten even one of your ships let alone all of them, isn't encouraging pvp. It's accountants in space, at its infamous best.

If you were real pvpers, and genuniely wanted pvp, you would scout out what the locals use, and then turn up in a fleet where victory was not certain. Then the locals would fight, and fun would ensue. But when you plan for massive overwheleming victory against people whom you know are the proverbial ants beneath your tank tracks, you simply encourage people to do what so many above encourage - to quit and play something else. And people do, including entire nullsec alliances of old.

An influx of new players whom you then betray and ruthlessly crush without any real effort at all brings you no glory. But it may indeed lead to CCP losing yet more customers. That means less people for you to kill - that is wonderful if you are a moon miner who loves playing spreadsheets in space, but terribly bad if you really are a pvper. The best wolves encourage sheep to live in large numbers in pastures they can hunt in. If you eat all the sheep or scare them all away, you have no-one but yourselves to blame when one wolf turns on the other, then the last lonely wolves lament the good old days when there was plenty of sheep to eat and plenty of wolves to test their strength against.

How were you betrayed and by whom?
Did you give payment?

Please let me know what happened and I will investigate. You can EVEMail me if you prefer.

reading features & ideas gives me a ******* seizure, and so does your post

I'd say you don't know what this means, and you don't understand this game.

1. It is a sandbox--i.e. the devs are amazingly hands off regarding typical game play. If 20,000 players want to band together to do stuff...that's fine.

2. Setting up a POS with resists so that no damage gets through from capitals (ships that are in part designed to kill POS) is anti-thetical to PvP.

3. Part of PvP in this game is about working with others, even as a corp/alliance trying to lone wolf it can be tough...if you really want to do that, then as others have suggested HTFU you made a choice now live with it. Or change, and call in people who might want to drop on PL as they hit your tower. PL does have enemies you know.

this doesn't make sense, when you go fora fight, you go for winning the fight, hence you take whatever will bring you the best chance of victory..

this is universal in eve, and we can't be mad at anyone for doing it.

there is a balance issue with supers and titans being used by nulssec in low, this is true, but this is an issue from the way they are designed, just as simple as this.

hint: let CSAA being anchored in 0.4 and below.

lowsec can now have the same ships, and a wannabe nullsec alliance can access the ship required to do so (wich, in the current situation, is not possible without having a sov).

what were you mining with?

m-muh capital bl0b