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If blasters are as good as ACs inside long point range (28km), and better inside web/scram range (11km), then they are balanced against each other, no?

Well In gallente description from DUST site is nothing about blasters :) check this out.

But in other side drones are very hard in PVP etc...

Champions of liberty and fierce guardians of the human spirit, the Gallente Federation is the only true democracy in New Eden. Some of the most progressive leaders, scientists, and businessmen of the era have emerged from its diverse peoples. Pioneers of artificial intelligence, the Federation once relied almost entirely on drone fleets to defend its beliefs and borders. But the limitations of this technology and the lack of a human element—both in terms of a military strategy, and as a means of spreading influence— eventually reached a critical point. Today, Gallentean starships are manned by some of the bravest men and women of New Eden.

Well they are the bravest coz they are flying not armed ships in very raw world :)

Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari ships also are destroyed sometimes XD

In fleet there is Arazu or Lachesis or taranis - gals are the best tacklers. Lachesis and Arazu will be even better after this patch. But this is all what we can see in fleets heh so if you are gallente this is the only option.

On Capital ship lvl gals are the best. Thanatos, Nyx are very very :) Moros is ok.

Problem is in HAC's and BC's and this lvl need to be boosted. Brutix is sucker Myrm is very Good with AC's :)

I think the biggest buff Gallente BS could get would be making the domi look cooler. Then people would actually fly it and realize it's one of the best T1 BS hulls in the game. Certainly on par with the phoon for cost-effectiveness.

The domi is certainly the best T1 PvE ship, but I was talking more about PvP. It can function as a dual web mega with better damage projection or a 475dps/161k ehp curse or guardian, and if you get 3 hospital domis with cap transfers good luck breaking whatever it is they're repping. That being said, I fly solo or in small gangs and rarely see over 40 ships in an engagement. I know the Gallente BS line blows for bigger fleet fights.

Read my post again. The original is on pg.50 thread #989

I suggested adding a speed bonus to the GUNS not the ships.

If fitting hybrids made your ship faster, then the speed/agility problems that plague Blasterboats AND Railships would be reduced greatly.
If you cause the GUNS to buff the speed, then hybrid ships would still be slow with ACs or arty or lasers fit.

As for (med) rails, if they gave a speed bonus to the ships that fit them, then they would be a very viable kiter for that "middle ground" between ACs and Arty. ACs have better tracking and more dmg at short-range, Artys have more alpha and better range, but worse tracking.

IMO rails aren't broken, it's the ships that fit them that can't maintain-range vs an AC ship, or close-range on a Arty ship.
Combined with the up-coming 10% dmg boost to rails, and supposedly there will be a slight trackin-boost, this should make Rails a useful PVP tool.

Obviously, for each fit, their should be a counter, so for above said engagements, chances should be as close to 50/50 as possible.

Maybe because it's a pretty good idea. ;)


I'm REALLY not sure why you think it's so awful to begin with.
Most of our pissing-match had to do with you telling me how dumb I was for disagreeing with nerfing Rail-range.

I looked-through your post again, and I only see a few arguments against my proposal. All of which don't seem to have much basis, and seem to be formed on false-assuptions.


One said that rails opperate outside of point and logistics range anyway, so buffing thier speed wouldn't help at-all.

I provided you an EFT dmg graph that CLEARLY demonstrates how med rails DO in-fact opperate within long-point range.
So, the way I see it, a med rail-boat would be a very viable kiter if it had a decent speed-buff.
We both know probing mechanics killed large rails. The guns themselves aren't broken. As for PVE, a decent damage buff and fitting req reduction should help to bring them on-par with other systems. (Which is exactly what CCP is proposing, NOW with an added tracking buff too.)


One of your other arguments say that Minmatar ships would fit hybrids and be super OP in the speed dept.

You're right, if a Minmatar ship fit Hybrids, it WOULD be very fast... BUT it has no hull bonuses for Hybrids, so it would have very sub-par dmg, tracking, range, use more cap, etc, etc... So, it's a trade-off. Which seems fair to me.


Your last argument addressed issues that hybrid ships would be OP with a speed-buff.

I explained to you that my proposed speed-buff wouldn't be HUGE, just enough to get balance back-in.
With my proposed speed-buff, if a Gallent ship fit a passive armor tank, all the speed penalties would cause-it to still be slower than most other ships (except maybe armor tanked Amarr, but they have range advantages). If they fit an active armor tank, or shield-tank, without any speed-penalties, they would be average speed. If and only IF they fit minimal-tank and some nanos/speed-rigs, would they then be faster than most ships.
Your suggestion that my proposal would allow hybrid ships to fit huge armor-tanks and still be way faster than everyone else, while burning-around anihilating everything in-sight is NOT what I proposed at-all.

Let's discuss what's wrong with my proposal so I can improve-it into something more-useful.
You rolling your eyes and sighing with dissaproval while making sarcastic comments in attemps to discredit me aren't helping anyone.
We're on the same team, we both want to see Blasters and Rails become more useful. Just because I don't agree with your rail-fix idea, doesn't mean you have to automatically dissagree with my fix-idea.

You joke made me lol actually

EDIT: because I can !

I hope they change the sound for 425mm rail guns. They don't sound like they're launching projectiles across a couple hundred km at hyper velocity! They sound like peashooters. The heaviest medium rail guns sound bigger.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?