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NEOCOM App - Greyed out buttons?
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Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#1 - 2013-07-10 09:09:56 UTC
Hi folks,

My mate in game has said I should Get Neocom as it's very useful for skill and ship builds etc.

I downloaded it to my Ipad and setup my character key and codes etc, and its all coming up, however several of the buttons are greyed out and don't work, such as skills, market etc.

However certificates, database and a couple of others do work.

Am I missing something?
Echo Echoplex
#2 - 2013-07-10 12:30:02 UTC
I'm also a newb so I may be wrong, but when you set up your API you tick off the categories you do or don't want to show. Is it possible you inadvertently missed some of them?

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#3 - 2013-07-10 12:34:02 UTC
It is entirely possible haha!

However when I linked my account with the API key etc, it just asked for the API and the Vkey and that was it.

Once I did that my character appeared and some of the buttons were active, like ship fitting.

But skills etc were grey.

I have logged out and back in, and I have googled the neocom app and its helpsite, the issue has been mentioned by some but an answer doesn't seem to appear..hmm
Echo Echoplex
#4 - 2013-07-10 12:36:53 UTC
I'm sure someone'll be alone to clarify but I think you can solve it by just making a new key.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#5 - 2013-07-10 12:39:40 UTC
I think this is what I have done, I set up the API key without really thinking about it as wasn't sure what it was all about, OR it could be because my character has existed since 2005 but hadn't logged in since 2008?

If I make a new API jey and re-setup my neocom it should work....

I now feel bit daft...
Echo Echoplex
#6 - 2013-07-10 12:42:38 UTC
Rick Sarth wrote:


I now feel bit daft...

Don't. if you're like me there'll be many such moments^^P

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Simas Wulf
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-07-10 12:49:13 UTC
You have to tick all the boxes on the website (not the phone), so that on the website it's greyed out.

I thought they were all ticked at first, but they're not.

p.s.

not sure how to explain :D
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#8 - 2013-07-10 12:58:25 UTC
Simas Wulf wrote:
You have to tick all the boxes on the website (not the phone), so that on the website it's greyed out.

I thought they were all ticked at first, but they're not.

p.s.

not sure how to explain :D



You explained it about as best as it can be. ;)

OP, when you set up your API key to give to Neocom, you need to make sure you've got it set up so that ALL information is sent. Log back in to your API settings and tick all the boxes as the poster above me said, then try again with Neocom.

Then enjoy how awesome it is. I love that app. Especially on the iPad.

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Echo Echoplex
#9 - 2013-07-10 13:09:32 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
Simas Wulf wrote:
You have to tick all the boxes on the website (not the phone), so that on the website it's greyed out.

I thought they were all ticked at first, but they're not.

p.s.

not sure how to explain :D



You explained it about as best as it can be. ;)

OP, when you set up your API key to give to Neocom, you need to make sure you've got it set up so that ALL information is sent. Log back in to your API settings and tick all the boxes as the poster above me said, then try again with Neocom.

Then enjoy how awesome it is. I love that app. Especially on the iPad.

+1. It IS the best. So much better and clearer for planning your skills isn't it? We all really should donate a couple of bucks to that site. It's invaluable.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#10 - 2013-07-10 13:14:34 UTC
Well I updated my API info, so hopefully when I get home (at work at the mo) I can spark up the Ipad and get my necom glory on!

Hopefully it will make me more specific with my skill training rather than a crazed monkey in a button factory!
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2013-07-10 18:24:08 UTC
For what it is worth, to create a full access Customizable API Key (CAK):

1. https://community.eveonline.com/support/api-key/CreatePredefined?accessMask=268435455
2. Give it a name, like "Full Access".
3. Check the "No Expiry" box.
4. Click on the "Submit" button.

I don't recommend sharing a full access key with others, or using it on websites.

I do recommend creating a new key for every key you want to share or use on a website, and preferably limit it to only the character you want to share.

Remember you can always edit keys, change their expiry, and even delete them, whenever you need to.
Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#12 - 2013-07-10 20:14:55 UTC
Right, got all that working fine n dandy.

However my next endeavour is to work out a skill plan.

However whenever i use it it just states skill plan is empty, and i cannot find an how to's etc on google so am a bit confused again.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-07-11 05:11:29 UTC
I have and use the app all the time. Best way to get technical questions answered is on the NEOCOM facebook page. Artem Shimanski the developer is usually quick to respond to technical issues if you post something to the page. There is a link at the bottom of the app that will take you directly to the facebook group page.

As for your skill plan being empty on the app...well have you put any skills into your plan? Most of the items that you require some training to use will have a small skillbook icon and the length of time it will take you to train for the items use. Clicking on the icon will load the skill to your skill plan. You can add as many skills as you want the planner will show you how many days it will take to complete.

The planner is just that, a planner. Just because a skill is loaded does not mean it will get trained unless you buy a skill book in game and train it. Once trained in game it will automatically remove from the planner. Hope this helps.
Rick Sarth
ABDN Corp
#14 - 2013-07-11 08:02:35 UTC
Andracin wrote:
I have and use the app all the time. Best way to get technical questions answered is on the NEOCOM facebook page. Artem Shimanski the developer is usually quick to respond to technical issues if you post something to the page. There is a link at the bottom of the app that will take you directly to the facebook group page.

As for your skill plan being empty on the app...well have you put any skills into your plan? Most of the items that you require some training to use will have a small skillbook icon and the length of time it will take you to train for the items use. Clicking on the icon will load the skill to your skill plan. You can add as many skills as you want the planner will show you how many days it will take to complete.

The planner is just that, a planner. Just because a skill is loaded does not mean it will get trained unless you buy a skill book in game and train it. Once trained in game it will automatically remove from the planner. Hope this helps.



I think that is where I was getting confused, I didn't realise you could place skills into the planner in the app, I know that sounds silly, but I couldn't see any buttons etc saying 'add skills' etc so you could build up a plan so I thought I was missing something.

I have a few skills I am training up both at 5 days each so have a while to learn before I need to start planning next block.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#15 - 2013-07-11 09:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
I hate apps, life was good before them and it will be good without them. They are an evolutionary death end for brainless people and now we can't evolve anymore cause omg, the freaking app has stopped working..

Help me by calling a halt to the funds for these wretched things. Stop buying **** you don't need!

Radius

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-07-12 00:50:15 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
I hate apps, life was good before them and it will be good without them. They are an evolutionary death end for brainless people and now we can't evolve anymore cause omg, the freaking app has stopped working..

Help me by calling a halt to the funds for these wretched things. Stop buying **** you don't need!

Radius


Well NEOCOM is free unless you are really annoyed by the tiny add banners at the bottom of the app and donate to remove them...so "halting funds" is hardly going to end its existance.
As for brainless...I remember the early days before apps, evemon and EFT, drawing the semi-circular slot layouts of my ships, plotting the mods I wanted, the power grid and cpu each used, adding on a calculator and comparing it against how much fitting the ship had. Been there done that, don't want to go back.
Applying your logic people in the stone age should be the penicle of human intelligence as ever since we have become more and more dependent on technology....