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Tonight's fleet fight in Z9PP-H

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Lee'lei
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#361 - 2013-07-05 10:56:22 UTC
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=21617

here's the fixed battle report, 4100 ships involved, 3127 unique players, 69 alliances involved, over 1500 kills.


Good times, shame it ended so early.
Charlotte 'Lottie' O'Reilly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#362 - 2013-07-05 10:57:32 UTC
Harrkonen Dune wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Harrkonen Dune wrote:
So it now appears that CCP have joined the ranks of the unwashed masses against the CFC, declared war on the home of the useless and the land of the bad.

I guess it was only a matter of time, we are fighting everyone else why not you.



You have any evidence for that statement? Or are you just posting Libel towards a company for fun?


Mmmm so one minuet its all forgive and forget now you want to challenge me for libel, "I'm a schizophrenic, and so am I" .

You sir have no real importance as regards this thread your opinion's are mute as is your poor posting. You are, from what I have read a CCP fan boy.

And by the way if you make a mistake you must be held accountable for that mistake or lessons are never learned.


I expect another bad reply.

hurf blurf some gents grunt calling someone else's opinions irrelevant
ito kazami
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#363 - 2013-07-05 10:58:50 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

Its a ******* game. This is not something that affected the stock market. You want a CCP employee punished or even lose his or her job over a mistake likely made while excited over a battle happening in the game they maintain?



if at my job i **** with 3000 customers at once, im indeed fired right away .

but more than that , i dont give a **** of why / how it happened . what i care about is what ccp will do to compensate the strategic harm they did once more to CFC . nothing , as susual.
Endeavour Starfleet
#364 - 2013-07-05 11:00:28 UTC
Cyrenna Goran wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



Why is every cancer spewing ****** like you screaming about it being a video game?? It's a game and a service people dedicate an insanely amount of time, not even talking about paying for this game every month. It is not alright to provide a **** poor service and defend it with the argument that its a video game, their whole ******* business idea is a video game!!!!!!

Do you think a bank would just disregard a thing of this magnitude? If CCP wants to be regarded as a serious business they will have to take action and create routines... Maybe they should look towards something like ITIL.

However i do not believe in firing people over a single misstake.


EVE Online is not a Bank it is a video game. Banks have to spend FAR more on network security and stability because a failure can actually harm a business or personal finances in real life.

Not getting on a potential hundred capital killmails is nothing in comparison.
Fenrix Mernher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#365 - 2013-07-05 11:04:23 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Tialano Utrigas wrote:
Mad Ani wrote:
I had 5564 people tuned in the stream when the node crashed...

Quite embarrassing, but I didn't blurt about it to the viewers. Showed them another fight in the meantime, however that was pretty bad. I lost all the viewers as the fight had ended What?

http://www.twitch.tv/mad_ani/c/2524548


I think 2200 of those tuned in were from CFC, TEST, and N3 who were actually fighting in the fleet but trying to work out what was actually going on in the battle!

Or was that just me?

I know I was watching the battle on both screens, yeah. It was interesting to hear commentary like 'I have no idea why the heck N3 and PL haven't already dropped supers on this...'

Maybe you should have watched Boat on themittani.com stream, because he knew why.

I think everyone knew why supers hadn't been dropped. Primarily because they are pretty useless against battleships.

N3/PL/Test were playing this as a pretty standard escalating cap fight. CFC were committed in several sub cap fleets, capitals were dropped to create a situation where to continue holding the field you would need to dreadnoughts. As soon as that happened you can bet a lot of supers were going to turn up to reduce another of your dreadnought fleets to rubble.

There is a point in this game where piling people into subcaps won't give you a win, I expect that fairly soon the CFC will learn how disasterous their lack of competent super pilots and FCs will become to many of their campaigns.
Charlotte 'Lottie' O'Reilly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#366 - 2013-07-05 11:06:05 UTC
ito kazami wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

Its a ******* game. This is not something that affected the stock market. You want a CCP employee punished or even lose his or her job over a mistake likely made while excited over a battle happening in the game they maintain?



if at my job i **** with 3000 customers at once, im indeed fired right away .

but more than that , i dont give a **** of why / how it happened . what i care about is what ccp will do to compensate the strategic harm they did once more to CFC . nothing , as susual.

Just like they did nothing to compensate TEST & pals when server death saved CFC caps.

Get over it.
Endeavour Starfleet
#367 - 2013-07-05 11:11:37 UTC
ito kazami wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

Its a ******* game. This is not something that affected the stock market. You want a CCP employee punished or even lose his or her job over a mistake likely made while excited over a battle happening in the game they maintain?



if at my job i **** with 3000 customers at once, im indeed fired right away .

but more than that , i dont give a **** of why / how it happened . what i care about is what ccp will do to compensate the strategic harm they did once more to CFC . nothing , as susual.


So you are comparing a video game losing service for a few minutes to a real life job where I assume you would be fired because the action would have caused financial harm to whoever was involved?

Again I request anyone who actually (Not just raging on the forums like in idiot) feels that a CCP employee ought to lose his or her job or punished for a simple mistake that was likely due to the excitement over the battle happening in a game they maintain. I personally request anyone that feels that way biomass their character and leave EVE for good. In my opinion the game will be better without them.

Do you know how on average how difficult it is to land a similar job if you have been terminated from your existing one? Many jobs won't even bother looking at the application (Some even admit this) if the person applying is not currently working.
Tialano Utrigas
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#368 - 2013-07-05 11:20:38 UTC
Fenrix Mernher wrote:
This Fountain of tears (har har geddit?!) from goons is priceless. They seem to be forgetting the times they have had their caps bailed out by server issues.


Man who let you out of your cage??
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#369 - 2013-07-05 11:22:13 UTC
Reposting this magifincent thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgcUwTmHY74
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#370 - 2013-07-05 11:23:01 UTC
Does this mean CCP is no longer the Goons most powerful ally?

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Fenrix Mernher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#371 - 2013-07-05 11:25:46 UTC
Tialano Utrigas wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:
This Fountain of tears (har har geddit?!) from goons is priceless. They seem to be forgetting the times they have had their caps bailed out by server issues.


Man who let you out of your cage??

Very different people to those who don't let CFC log on any of their caps ever. I just wanted to be a shining beacon of light in this forest of badposts and CFC tears. (Actually I just like to pretending I'm relevant and edgy)

Hey guys, have a free archon if you can fly it. The catch is, we'll never let you fly it. Mittens is truly a great leader.
Niding
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#372 - 2013-07-05 11:26:57 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Cyrenna Goran wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



Why is every cancer spewing ****** like you screaming about it being a video game?? It's a game and a service people dedicate an insanely amount of time, not even talking about paying for this game every month. It is not alright to provide a **** poor service and defend it with the argument that its a video game, their whole ******* business idea is a video game!!!!!!

Do you think a bank would just disregard a thing of this magnitude? If CCP wants to be regarded as a serious business they will have to take action and create routines... Maybe they should look towards something like ITIL.

However i do not believe in firing people over a single misstake.


EVE Online is not a Bank it is a video game. Banks have to spend FAR more on network security and stability because a failure can actually harm a business or personal finances in real life.

Not getting on a potential hundred capital killmails is nothing in comparison.


With that attitude I hope you never get a job in quality assurance or customer relations.
Endeavour Starfleet
#373 - 2013-07-05 11:28:41 UTC
Because I know the difference between real life and a video game?
Fenrix Mernher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#374 - 2013-07-05 11:33:04 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Because I know the difference between real life and a video game?

Eve is real.

Well that's what the advert told me anyway.
Niding
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#375 - 2013-07-05 11:33:31 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Because I know the difference between real life and a video game?


Because CCP, like any other company, needs revenue to survive.

The service you provide doesnt matter much, if the customer isnt happy with service delivered they will
not keep buying/paying.
This is why you got customer relations and quality assuarance.

Your grasp on "real life" seems exaggerated.
Cyrenna Goran
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#376 - 2013-07-05 11:34:21 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Cyrenna Goran wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



Why is every cancer spewing ****** like you screaming about it being a video game?? It's a game and a service people dedicate an insanely amount of time, not even talking about paying for this game every month. It is not alright to provide a **** poor service and defend it with the argument that its a video game, their whole ******* business idea is a video game!!!!!!

Do you think a bank would just disregard a thing of this magnitude? If CCP wants to be regarded as a serious business they will have to take action and create routines... Maybe they should look towards something like ITIL.

However i do not believe in firing people over a single misstake.


EVE Online is not a Bank it is a video game. Banks have to spend FAR more on network security and stability because a failure can actually harm a business or personal finances in real life.

Not getting on a potential hundred capital killmails is nothing in comparison.


You fail to grasp ******* point...

Let me ask you this, do you think CCP wants to run a serious successful business or the lelele videogame hurdurr business you are implying video games should be regarded as??

Eve online is a business, and as a business with 50 000 everyday users they have to keep aim for a certain quality of service.

In the end you are just a ******* clown who thinks video games are made by one guy in his mothers basement, failing to understand that CCP and other companys are serious companys.
Beidorion eldwardan
Tactically Armed Vanguard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#377 - 2013-07-05 11:34:31 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



it is not just a video game. it is an entertaiment product being sold for a monthly fee, and might i add one where we as costomers have no rights when something goes wrong. so yes if you destroy the quality of the product your company is sellig due to being unable to correctly do your job, then yes you get fired. its not about reallife implications or not its purely about someone at ccp not being good at his or her job... so let someone better at the keyboard.
Tialano Utrigas
Running with Dogs
Out of the Blue.
#378 - 2013-07-05 11:43:37 UTC
Beidorion eldwardan wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



it is not just a video game. it is an entertaiment product being sold for a monthly fee, and might i add one where we as costomers have no rights when something goes wrong. so yes if you destroy the quality of the product your company is sellig due to being unable to correctly do your job, then yes you get fired. its not about reallife implications or not its purely about someone at ccp not being good at his or her job... so let someone better at the keyboard.


Video game or bank, its the seriousness of their incompetence that dictates what happens to the employee.

The employee needs to show signs of gross negligence before they can be sacked. Firing someone who clickled one too many options because, as Falcon stated, a communications error would end up with CCP paying out a large sum of money to that worker as compensation.

You are all guessing and making the assumption it was the fault of one person as opposed to a flawed process at CCP.

The fate of the person responsible for a fault is not the concern of the customer in most organisations.

Let it go.
Endeavour Starfleet
#379 - 2013-07-05 11:45:21 UTC
Beidorion eldwardan wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Some of the responses in this thread and the other one are DISGUSTING. And absolutely uncalled for.

Was it a terrible accident? YES
Does it need a fully documented investigation? YES
Should it involve communication with the CSM? YES
Should someone lose their job and be thrown into the bad job market because of a mistake made in a ******* video game? NO!!!!!!!

Get the hell over yourselves. It was a mistake that messed up an historic day in a video game. Not something that had any affect on anything in real life.

I call on the leaders of the CFC to make a statement that shows they do not agree with some of these forum whiners.



it is not just a video game. it is an entertaiment product being sold for a monthly fee, and might i add one where we as costomers have no rights when something goes wrong. so yes if you destroy the quality of the product your company is sellig due to being unable to correctly do your job, then yes you get fired. its not about reallife implications or not its purely about someone at ccp not being good at his or her job... so let someone better at the keyboard.


Fired eh? Thrown into the bad job market over a single mistake and some tears over not getting a bunch of fancy additions to personal killboards.

Please do get over yourself. Or Biomass your in game character. Personally I would request if you did the latter.
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#380 - 2013-07-05 11:46:55 UTC
C'mon, c'mon.
Is already done.
Logs show nothing.
Brand new day in Fountain. Let's make it bright.
Lol