EVE General Discussion

You invalidate all your other statements when you keep insisting that highsec PvP is griefing.

I cast thee back to 0.0.

Why do people assume that by suiciding someone in high sec with hundreds of millions in their cargohold or a 100-200mil mining barge you are chasing off newbies from the game? I know that isk is easy to make in game but by the time you are skilled enough to have that much isk or fly such ships you should a) know enough about the game already to protect yourself and understand the consequences if you dont, b) have in game friends to help you out both financially and security wise or c) have financial methods to recoup the losses in a short time frame.


The vast majority of the people getting ganked are far from newbies. And with the explosion of alt accounts even the low sp players tend to be alts rather than true newbies anyway. So much so that I really have never understood this "new player retention" argument coming from people on the forums at all. Especially when people are hauling around 0.0 deadspace items around in their holds or flying freighters, nevermind T2 indys, jump freighters and orcas.


This has absolutely nothing to do with new player retention at all. Ive scanned enough cargo holds to know a true new player doesnt have anything worth ganking in their holds. Its the hauler alts of null/low sec mains that are targeted. Its the alt corporations of established jita trade alts, WH corps, high sec POS corps that hold the better loot and are targets of gankers. You dont go after the newbs cause they dont have anything worth going after. So to worry about subs is a ridiculous argument.


As it stands there is absolute no way to find out who someones alt is beyond a certain level. And if someone wants to hide their alts they can and its very easy. Its only gotten easier over the years. My last gank was 9 gallente small control towers. Now a newb doesnt know the first thing about owning ONE tower let alone 9 of them. Sorry but I hurt someones entire POS operation on a LARGE scale with that gank. It is one of the only ways to hurt peoples bottom line in a universe where shell corporations, alts and hiding your isk making accounts are alive and well.

And until theres a better way to wage economic warfare upon the high sec alt armies of null/low sec mains ganking will continue in all its better forms to redistribute wealth.

If I get taxed in a bloody game at 70%, I'm not moving anywhere except to a different game...

Kinda looks like you kids have failed at Ice interdiction....tons of macs in the belt in Ard...

You might want to check the current price of oxygen isotopes before you start making yourself look even dumber.

thanks for the intel

All things eventually come to an end. But it's still funny to see people running to the forums because they saw somebody mining some blue ice and decided that it meant our interdiction was over.

Another thing...if you look at how those people are mining you'll see some hilarious things. The other day I ran across a guy mining ice using a supertanked Hulk which meant he could only fit a single harvester. He had a scimitar giving him shield reps and a Dominix with armor reps and he was using an Orca for bonuses and ore storage. He was using four accounts to run a single ice harvester and he still managed to lose his Hulk to a couple Goons. It was amazing.

Why do they need to be higher? Why should miners be able to afk mine while everybody has to be atk to play the game?

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that when Tippia talks about carebears that he or she is talking about the people who live in highsec full time and have zero interest in low or null.