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Dual SASB Bomber viable?

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Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#1 - 2013-07-02 05:03:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Heather Cole
So, I'm currently fitting my Nemesis (I know, I know) and I noticed I had a few small ancillary shield boosters sitting in my hanger, and it started me wondering.
Would a dual sasb bomber work? I'd use it mostly in small gang (5-15) ops as harassment and in that kind of environment if a bomber gets primaried and doesn't get out quick enough it will die, no matter its "tank" . That made me think that fitting an MSE is kind of a waste, but I just can't bring myself to fly without a tank of some kind, and this one doesn't effect my sig radius. I suppose it would let me handle drones pretty well, and if I could use a tracking disruptor with an optimal range script on the longest range enemy ship and try and stay out of range of the rest of them I could survive at least long enough to gtfo if things go south.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-07-02 08:10:22 UTC
Can probably work in some situations but anything instalock/alpha will blow it up to pieces because "little buffer" and no 2SASB's can't catch 6K alpha strikes even less a "critical" shot

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Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#3 - 2013-07-02 09:06:36 UTC
Nothing I could realistically fit on a bomber will catch a big alpha from anything more than a passing field mouse, which is why it seems kind of a waste to try and fit my bomber to deal with said alpha.
Though the logical conclusion of that train of thought is to fit no tank and load up on ewar (which I've seen some bombers do), but I'm not confident enough in my ability to juggle that many things just yet.

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Marianne Pollard
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-07-02 09:41:31 UTC
In my extensive bombing experience you're better off with buffer / ewar. Whilst it won't be much, it MAY mean the difference between death and 1% structure, also, if you're not happy with juggling passive is the way to go.

However, I'm not one to say don't experiment. It really does depend what you go up against and how many other targets there are in your fleet (your chances of being selected for popping).

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-07-02 10:58:51 UTC
Marianne Pollard wrote:
In my extensive bombing experience you're better off with buffer / ewar. Whilst it won't be much, it MAY mean the difference between death and 1% structure, also, if you're not happy with juggling passive is the way to go.

However, I'm not one to say don't experiment. It really does depend what you go up against and how many other targets there are in your fleet (your chances of being selected for popping).



Indeed, very often a single Damp script sensor+buffer is enough tank to give enough time to achieve the pesky task, depends on the target and opponent skill of course but most often is the best choice imho.

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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-07-02 11:03:41 UTC
If you're trying to go evasive, then there's always a chance that you'll zig instead of zag and catch an incoming salvo at zero transversal. ASB's are great if you need to rep up quickly, but you've got to survive long enough to turn the boosters on.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#7 - 2013-07-02 11:42:55 UTC
Thanks for the input, guys.
I think I might give the ewar route a try. I won't get better at juggling different modules with different targets unless I just do it, right? Plus, my sig radius stays small without the MSE. (Though being taken to 2k+ hp is very attractive)
Speaking of sig radius, what are people's thoughts on inertia stabilisers/nanos? One robs me of hp and the other blooms my sig radius, but they both perform a similar task, don't they? Decreasing my time to warp. Though if I'm fighting aligned, that point is moot anyway.
Fitting such a fragile ship is proving to be a pain.

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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-02 15:19:47 UTC
Nanofibers give you a balance of extra speed and greater maneuverability, and their drawback isn't really all that relevant; if you're taking hull damage in a stealth bomber, you're in deep trouble anyway. The speed boost from the nanofibers will, if you fly right and maintain your transverse velocity, help keep your enemies from landing that crippling hit; inertial stabilizers won't help your transversal, and they'll make it easier for the incoming hit to land.

Don't fret about a fit costing you hull HP - unless you're in one of the few ships that can legitimately hull tank, and I'll tell you straight out, stealth bombers are not on that list.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#9 - 2013-07-06 23:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Heather Cole
Okay. In the end I fit an MSE. I figured there was a reason everyone else does it, plus I have four midslots so I can still rock some EWAR (a target painter atm) along with a point (I'll trade out the point for a damp in fleets) and prop.

WOW am I glad I went with the MSE.

I went check out a system a corp mate was camped in, and the gate was camped. Now, I'm still not that used to PVP (I only have eight kills to my name, and seven of them were in a fleet), and embarrassingly enough I got the shakes a little (not like full body spasms, but my hands weren't exactly steady). So when I went to hit warp then cloak up my unsteady finger hit F1 twice. I cloaked. And I uncloaked.

I jumped back through the gate in 50% armor. The MSE saved me, no amount of EWAR would have helped with two ships and their drones right on top of me.

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