Ships & Modules

so I had this gang, right, and it did pretty good.

RR Nightmare
RR Nightmare
RR Nightmare
Orca
Orca

but it was very nubbish and big and blingy, so I decided to go back to the drawing board, considering several gank comments and some helpful suggestions about adding links. so now I have:

Tachy Oracle (heat sinks and tracking enhancers in low, +1 DCII... 3 mission specific hardeners in mids, no local reps)
Tachy Oracle - same
Basilisk - perfect logi V / transfers / perfect supports
Basilisk - same
Claymore - siege and skirmish links <-former orca pilot
Orca

the basilisks have remote sebos to get the oracles to act like tachy nightmares.

I'm also giving up my faction ways for the time being, and I'm very optimistic this gang will do as well, if not better, than the RR Tachy nightmares. even meta fit, the Oracle feels just like a Nightmare.

I'm estimating the new gang at 3k dps in mostly lazors w/ multifrequency (no, i'm not skilled for T2 tachys yet), probably artillery with the claymores, and 15 drones on grid. I like the idea of claymores for the sig link bonus, plus they look so... *******... sick. same for the Oracles, especially considering what they are compared to a Nightmare... ******* beautiful. [I wish I could hold the Oracle and play with it, making swooshy noises as I wave it through the air.]

what do you think.

Ok, I hear what you're saying. I shouldn't use a Claymore. Which is really hard for me to do, because it looks so damn awesome. If I had to pick just one link, and go with a Sleipnir, it would be Sig. My logistics pilots are fine without siege links for the purpose of Level 4 missions.

Ideally, I would replace the Nightmares with three Oracles, but due to the fragility of an Oracle with a shield fit, and the rest of the gang being fairly low-SP, I need to convert two of the Nightmare pilots back into Logistics pilots. Ideally, and eventually, it would be 3 Oracles, 2 Logi, 1 loki link.

The drone DPS should be considered the same, because while the Oracles have no drones, the Logi and Claymore will have lights and they will be on-grid.

I should have done the legwork for the turret change. here it is:

24 lazor turrets with a tracking bonus on the Nightmares, with tracking speed script:
.0311 tracking
33+25 Multifrequency
79+25 Infrared
100 km targeting range
125 mm scan res
400 m sig

...3000 dps not including drones

becomes

16 lazor turrets with optimal range bonus on the Oracles with 2x tracking enhancers, remote sebo, links:
.0206 tracking
39+37 Multifrequency
95+37 Infrared
161.77 km targeting
275 mm scan res
142 m sig

...2000 dps not including drones

plus... a Sleipnir? at the moment I need the command ship pilot on grid, contributing dps.. or/rather: the rest of the gang is not ready to move to 3 oracles, 2 logi and 1 booster.

I'm showing the oracles to have a 151 m sig rather than 142 m sig, if the command ship is a Sleipnir. a 900 dps autocannon Sleipnir is a matter of spec'ing autocannons.

...2900 dps not including drones... +300 drone dps from 15 T2 lights. slightly less range on the autocannons, but it's gotta do for now, until 3x Oracles happens.

ISK cost: down to 800M for the whole gang, from ... well, a lot more for the deadspace Nightmares... about 4 Billion apiece.

2 Tachy shield Oracles, 1 Autocannon Sleipnir, 2 perfect Basilisks.

how about now, what do you think. (I have both a Claymore and Sleipnir in hangar in Jita. still not sure which way to go, though after your suggestion I think i'll go Sleipnir. but man... that matte black Claymore...)

I currently **** level 4 missions in Caldari space, and I'm trying to un-bling my gang to reduce the ganking temptation.

also, thank you very much for calling it a fleet.

Using lasers in caldari space means you're losing alot of dps to resists.

Take this with a grain of salt since I don't run missions for isk. I think the last time I ran missions much was in 2007.

But it seems to me that if you're going to run RR and you want a flexible fleet comp for this purpsose then the Domi is a better foundation for a fleet comp.

without EFT-ing it, it seems to me that spider tanking domi's will have better dps, better repping, better range and better options for applying mission specific damage than oracles or nightmares.

No one will waste their time ganking your nightmare unless you have 2b in faction. I do lv4 with 2 faction fit nightmare in a 0.5 system and never had any problem.

gist x-type x-large booster, pith x-type shield boost amp, imperial navy highs and lows... each. but even the hulls are big and blingy. I've reduced each to 90M including guns in the form of Oracles.

now that they're safely parked in Jita I'm not worried about showing you their evepraisal--they'll be sold and you'll never catch me in something like that again.

leaving behind my wayward non-spec'd faction ways!


in preparation for the upcoming command ship shuffle, I'm going into a siege mindlink + skirmish Claymore. I'm quite excited by the thought of an on-grid dual racial Claymore. I didn't make the command ship connection with this gang until a couple hours ago o7

I'll just skip the kinetic missions for as long as the Oracles work out, and jump on Blood Raider unauthorized military presence and Sansha pirate invasion every chance I get. after some cosmos missions, the gang should be 5+ unmodified with Caldari State; 2 currently are, and I'll just roam between L4 agents.

There was a time I wanted to do Vanguards "solo", but L4s are significantly less risky and pay out higher if I include some faction missions in the mix.

have you tried plugging large egress port maximizer Is into those rig slots

best suggestion I've ever received (thanks Mizzy)

Pile as many of those as you can into your fleet and wreck things in no time.

Yes, really. Guristas rats tend to have around 75% EM resists vs 45% Kinetic resists. 30% is a massive difference.