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ripperj
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-29 04:43:12 UTC
Hey everyone, I was wondering if it was possible to warp to a far destination without going through a gate? I read in chat to
'bounce using celestials' not sure what that meant. Also, i looked at the online mapping that was made for each region and wanted to know if it was possible to warp to a location if there wasn't a 'line' drawn between them. Thanks in advance.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2013-06-29 05:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
ripperj wrote:
Hey everyone, I was wondering if it was possible to warp to a far destination without going through a gate?

No "normal" subcapital ship can, no.

RP reasons:
- "Normal sized" sized ships don't have the power to make one continuous jump like that. And only capital ships (or Tech 2 battleships) can fit a big enough warp drive to perform such a jump.**
- Assuming that non-capital ships had the ability to perform one continuous warp between systems... the ship with the fastest warp speed would still take a minimum of several hours to complete its journey. Gates are the fastest way to go from system to system.***

Game reasons:
- gates act as "chokepoints" so players have the opportunity to "meet" each other outside of structures (like stations or POSs) and planets... for better or worse. It also allows people to set up blockades (see: gatecamps) to deny access into a system/route (note: such gatecamps CAN be blown through... it just requires the right ship and/or tactics).
- no one would want to wait several hours for their ship to warp to the next system.***


**Capital ships have restrictions in order to jump directly from system to system. They require a 2nd party to light a "beacon" for the massive warp drive (see: jump drive) to lock on to.

***"Capital warps" are the only exception to this. When they "jump" they arrive in the next system in a matter of seconds.

ripperj wrote:
I read in chat to
'bounce using celestials' not sure what that meant.

"Bouncing between celestials" refers to the act of warp between different objects in system... usually planets and belts. People use this to avoid getting captured (see: blown up) when there are hostiles in system and the stargates are too "hot" to attempt escape.

How did you Veterans start?
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-29 06:29:08 UTC
Also, for the future, here's the right Vocabulary:

- The word "warping" in EVE is reserved for faster-than-light movements within the same solar system.
So, when you "bounce using celestials" you "warp" within the same system.
- When traveling to a different solar system, EVE uses the word "jump"
- A "gate" usually means a "stargate" (also called "jump gate") that allows you to "jump" between systems
- However, "gate" can also mean an "acceleration gate" which allows you to "warp" within the same system. What exactly someone means by the word "gate" is usually clear from the context. If no context is given, it's most likely a stargate.

Otherwise Shah already replied to your questions:
- Most ships need to use gates to travel between systems and the lines on online mappings are those gates. So no, most ships cannot jump from one system into another when there is no "line" between them.
- Ships with a "jump drive" can jump without using a gate. Therefore those ships can jump between systems that aren't connected by gates. As Shah wrote, this requires someone else to travel there first and activate a special module. However, those modules cannot be activated in high sec, so you cannot jump into a high-sec system that way.
- Only the biggest ships in EVE have such a jump drive.
- Most ships with a jump drive cannot use a gate at all, so they have to use their jump drive to travel between systems. (Which also means that these ships cannot enter high-sec, ever.) However, there are some exceptions, e.g. jump freighters.