Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a much better version of the changes than the original proposal.

One thing i dont get is that you avoid giving a ship a ship maintenance array usable for moving rigged ships (a relocation ship) because "it have broken the boundaries of Tech 1 specialization"

Well, all ships currently equipped with ship maintenance arrays are Tech 1 mate

And to use the hoarder as a relocation ship with - say - the capability to move up to a rigged battlecruiser would be infinitly more worth it to the players than a ammo ship.

Just my 2 cents anyway.

The Mineral Hauler still needs to be able to haul melted/processed Ice products.

Will the Ore hauler be able to haul compressed ore?

I dont see why, as long as you keep its utility down by restricting SMA size. Also, mineral reqs can be tweaked.

+1 for the changes CCP Rise

Also i would switch the iteron Mk II and MK IV over to ore industrial and if your collegues in the design department have some time create 2 new ore skins for them.

PS.: I havent read the other posters so when it was already mentioned count me as support for the idea :P

Awesome job, CCP Rise! These are much more interesting.

Yeah. The big haulers, the ones people will actually use, all got their base tanks nerfed, and their CPU nerfed so they can't fit as big of a shield tank anymore.

Ganker's paradise.

Good round of rebalances, I would say, we get some specialised capacity.
This will help just about everybody, since the base specialised cargo capacities are superior to the normal cargo capacity, even with full skill.

I'm so happy that it worked out this way. You know why? It gives us choices. Decisions to make as which one is best for this or that. AND, it urges specializing into a T2 line for safer hauls if I have more expensive goods. The T1 large haulers let us carry lots of goods--salvage and the like--conveniently, while the tanky ones can survive the random ganking dessie but at the cost of cargo room. Choices not only as which one to fly but now each ship has its own advantages/disadvantages in its own right. Lovely, and very Eve.

I love it!

They're all unique AND interesting. Much better than 4 useless and 12 clones of each other with a different paintjob!

Now take a break, then do it for T2.

Count me as one of the few who aren't impressed with these changes and think the specialized cargo bays are dumb.

Why get 3 separate ships to haul planet goo, ore and ammo, when I could just get 1 Mammoth or Itty V that can haul anything.


Think of it this way...

You can't pick up your planet stuff, haul it to Jita to sell, buy a small hull or modules and haul them back. Or if you are mining to build stuff, you can haul ore to a station, but can't haul finished products out.


Long term, this just leads back to people mostly using only a couple of the T1 industrials, and the rest used rarely or not at all. Like who needs a special ammo hauler? Can't fit a covops cloak so it won't be used as a bomb truck for stealth bomber fleets. Not flexible enough to haul any other needed supplies to the front lines of a war. No drones? Holds ammo but not the guns? Absolutely pointless.