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CCP, do you even realize that with such expansions you push people to just quit this game?

The only people who keep me in are the alliance leaders who organize interesting events. Not the devs that ignore our feedback. Not the artists that insert their stupid animation everywhere they want and don't let us turn it off. Not the game designers that designed exploration to be the same as mission running and even worse.

Once those event makers are gone I see no interest in EVE looking at its current development.

OR they could just rollback this stupid exploration in your face feature all together.

I just realized today that I haven't done any exploration in a week. It's not the minigame or can spew, either. I just don't feel like I'm exploring if my scanner tells me there's something worth checking out in system and it conveniently tells me where to look for it.

I'm not quitting the game over it (I don't need a reason for a few months break) but I do think the previous posters have a point about scanning changes.

I've got 2 pretty serious issues with the new ui.

First is the radial menu. I have never had a positive experience with it. I dont even know what it does. The only interaction i have had with it since implementation is to jump gates / dock at exactly the wrong time. For example 5 minutes ago a WT undocked from station. I am in a sebo inty to point this frigate. When i get point im gonna need to move. So i spam to get the lock ok got lock hit disrupter, now i click and drag on the screen to look at the station and where im gonna burn and BAM radial menu ( i clicked on station activating menu- caldari stations are big mkay) and immediatly get put into docking procedure.

Second is the shipscanner scanning everything in system on entry. This is ok except it shows me in space where these things are. Frequently they line up with celestial clusters. Now when im chasing someone thru gates and they warp off i need to watch where they go so i can stomp their face. I can no longer do that because the anomolies or some junk prevents u from mousing over that particular cluster to see what is there.

These are serious issues.

I don't understand people crying at this thread about exploration changes. I personally like the new experience. In my opinion the work is done in the right direction. I think that the projection of exploration sites on the sky is a brilliant idea. However I wish this system was merged with the current brackes mechanism for celestials (sun, planets, stations, bookmarks and etc.), and I wish it was as customizeable as overview to choose what I want to display on the sky. To my mind all system warpable locations listed before should be displayed in a separate overview in the future. In fact scanner window IS already a separate overview for exploration sites.

Getting back to feedback. I can't say how I love the new transitions system! It is not about the graphics guys. Haven't you noticed how smooth are transitions now? For instance I can talk on chat with my friends while on autopilot and it doesn't interrupt me on each and every jump! No more screen blinking or annoying loading bar windows that smash at your face while you are browsing the market. I was waiting for this really long. I am waiting to see more smooth transitions: from station to space and probably even from the ship view to the solar system view and starmap view. Also I wish a strategic grid view (zoom out at max plus show grid) was explicitly maked out as a separate view along with system and galaxy levels.

Looking into the future I wish there were more gadget-like controls (like HUD, current system and route information dropdowns and locked targets list). Windows are required in some cases and are a canonical piece of UI but some things just look better and run smoother without that ugly frame around. For instance, the currently selected item, chat window and probably even overview could be implemented as a gadget.

All in all I'm very satisfied with the expansion. You guys simply don't see good stuff behind some unfortunate shortcomings of the new that could be easily fixed.

I think we can do better. CCP should make the hacking loot appear in our cargo holds when we enter a system with exploration sites. Otherwise exploration just means too much effort. :/

Hello,

Will the automatic system scan be disabled as it pollutes the screen and obfuscate the celestial objects we want to warp to when we do not do exploration?

that'd be nice

Actually it's the first couple of steps. First, you are told when you enter a system that there's something "hidden" worth looking at.

Open your system map and step two is taken care of for you. Not only do you know there's something "hidden" but the map tells you exactly what celestials to scan.


I don't care that we get max probes out the gate and I like the minigame (and am ambivalent about can spew) but the sesame street level of play required for exploration is something that does bother me.

Put the ******* undock button back where it ******* was please. Is it that goddamn hard to do really.

And there's the Big Issue for Odyssey.

The exploration expansion has ruined exploration for many of those that used to enjoy it.

Exploration is now something that bored mission runners can do, without having had to train up any skills beyond what they had from their initial intro days.

Previously
Exploration was about dedicated exploration characters in dedicated exploration ships.

Now
Most sigs get cleared by people that never leave their home system doing them for giggles.
Dedicated exploration ships no longer cut it as you need different ships for the combat sigs to the analysis sites so you have to either specialise on site types or not travel much while exploring.