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[s]Mars[/s] EVE needs Women!

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Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#661 - 2013-06-25 13:20:45 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#662 - 2013-06-25 13:31:26 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
The goons stated goal in EVE is to stop other players (At least 96% of whom are of course men) from having fun.

Obviously, goons are all women.



I always though it was about getting thier fun no matter if it's fun or not for others.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#663 - 2013-06-25 13:33:11 UTC
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.


Pointing out a perceived statistical psychological difference between the genders hardly qualifies as misogyny.

Similarly; I'm pretty sure I hate you, but it has nothing to do with gender stereotypes.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#664 - 2013-06-25 13:34:20 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.


Pointing out a perceived statistical psychological difference between the genders hardly qualifies as misogyny.

Similarly; I'm pretty sure I hate you, but it has nothing to do with gender stereotypes.


I don't know who you are.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#665 - 2013-06-25 13:37:15 UTC
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.


Pointing out a perceived statistical psychological difference between the genders hardly qualifies as misogyny.

Similarly; I'm pretty sure I hate you, but it has nothing to do with gender stereotypes.


I don't know who you are.


I'm someone who doesn't care for intolerance masqueraded as morality. I'm an open book if you care to know anything else about me.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#666 - 2013-06-25 13:42:12 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.


Pointing out a perceived statistical psychological difference between the genders hardly qualifies as misogyny.

Similarly; I'm pretty sure I hate you, but it has nothing to do with gender stereotypes.


I don't know who you are.


I'm someone who doesn't care for intolerance masqueraded as morality. I'm an open book if you care to know anything else about me.


Message me then. We'll see if you know as much about me as you seem to think.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#667 - 2013-06-25 13:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
I think only slightly gay men cyber in eve - if you didnt know that 96% of eve were men, you probably did subconsciously and i will just let you think about that.

I know a few women in eve, but now that i think about it i probably do know 50 males to one or two females.

How to attract more? You cant, its the curse of the internet and the nature of the spaceship beast, girls just dont like huge metal ships in a vacuum it seems.


CCP Eterne, how is this post not inappropriate as well? More misogyny.


Even though I don't much like having my posts removed, I'll wager a guess that CCP Eterne saw a (potential) train wreck about to occur, starting with a post that was seemingly intended to do nothing more than incite.

Truly, CCP has acted with much patience for this thread, the fact that it has not been locked.

The above post seems to be of good intent, if not a stab at being humorous -- the first sentence shows some self-deprecation for one's gender. The rest is an opinion, it seems.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#668 - 2013-06-25 14:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: S Byerley
Lasairiona Raske wrote:

Message me then. We'll see if you know as much about me as you seem to think.


Unless your original post was in jest/sarcasm (in which case some public clarification would presumably be to your benefit), I know as much as I care to. Projecting hatred into benign discourse is one of the extremely few things in this world I won't stand for. The issue causes me some amount of dissonance, but the line has to be drawn there; otherwise, it's impossible to maintain civil intellectual discussion.

I did overreach when i said I hated you; I guess I was going for a bit of rhetorical punch.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#669 - 2013-06-25 14:48:54 UTC
Maybelater Headache wrote:
Maybe said woman should have been aware that asking where she´s located is not necessarily a preparation for harassment, and refrain from nasty insults in the first place.


It certainly would have helped the situation. Like I said, there were two perspectives with no overlap, and the whole story was sad.

Awareness of perspective is not "walking on eggshells," it's awareness of perspective--empathy, if you prefer. Parking lots, elevators and garages are scary places for women to encounter men because of crimes men commit against women in those places, and so their caution is entirely rational. It's also easy to defuse, or at least lessen, that caution by a) not committing those crimes, and b) not acting like you're about to. This is just decency, akin to not making loud percussive noises around veterans with PTSD. There are no eggshells involved.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#670 - 2013-06-25 14:49:18 UTC
WIth three b oobies
Maybelater Headache
Doomheim
#671 - 2013-06-25 15:12:44 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Maybelater Headache wrote:
Maybe said woman should have been aware that asking where she´s located is not necessarily a preparation for harassment, and refrain from nasty insults in the first place.


It certainly would have helped the situation. Like I said, there were two perspectives with no overlap, and the whole story was sad.

Awareness of perspective is not "walking on eggshells," it's awareness of perspective--empathy, if you prefer. Parking lots, elevators and garages are scary places for women to encounter men because of crimes men commit against women in those places, and so their caution is entirely rational. It's also easy to defuse, or at least lessen, that caution by a) not committing those crimes, and b) not acting like you're about to. This is just decency, akin to not making loud percussive noises around veterans with PTSD. There are no eggshells involved.


I have no idea what you are trying to tell me.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#672 - 2013-06-25 15:34:23 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Maybelater Headache wrote:
Maybe said woman should have been aware that asking where she´s located is not necessarily a preparation for harassment, and refrain from nasty insults in the first place.


It certainly would have helped the situation. Like I said, there were two perspectives with no overlap, and the whole story was sad.

Awareness of perspective is not "walking on eggshells," it's awareness of perspective--empathy, if you prefer. Parking lots, elevators and garages are scary places for women to encounter men because of crimes men commit against women in those places, and so their caution is entirely rational. It's also easy to defuse, or at least lessen, that caution by a) not committing those crimes, and b) not acting like you're about to. This is just decency, akin to not making loud percussive noises around veterans with PTSD. There are no eggshells involved.


I'm not sure how fleet comms on Eve escalate into parking garage ****.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#673 - 2013-06-25 21:10:17 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:

Message me then. We'll see if you know as much about me as you seem to think.


Unless your original post was in jest/sarcasm (in which case some public clarification would presumably be to your benefit), I know as much as I care to. Projecting hatred into benign discourse is one of the extremely few things in this world I won't stand for. The issue causes me some amount of dissonance, but the line has to be drawn there; otherwise, it's impossible to maintain civil intellectual discussion.

I did overreach when i said I hated you; I guess I was going for a bit of rhetorical punch.


Apology accepted, I think....

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#674 - 2013-06-26 00:47:03 UTC
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:

Message me then. We'll see if you know as much about me as you seem to think.


Unless your original post was in jest/sarcasm (in which case some public clarification would presumably be to your benefit), I know as much as I care to. Projecting hatred into benign discourse is one of the extremely few things in this world I won't stand for. The issue causes me some amount of dissonance, but the line has to be drawn there; otherwise, it's impossible to maintain civil intellectual discussion.

I did overreach when i said I hated you; I guess I was going for a bit of rhetorical punch.


Apology accepted, I think....


I wouldn't read to much into it. If I were to start hating people, I'd hate them for their ideologies and yours would be high on the list.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#675 - 2013-06-26 15:49:27 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Lasairiona Raske wrote:

Message me then. We'll see if you know as much about me as you seem to think.


Unless your original post was in jest/sarcasm (in which case some public clarification would presumably be to your benefit), I know as much as I care to. Projecting hatred into benign discourse is one of the extremely few things in this world I won't stand for. The issue causes me some amount of dissonance, but the line has to be drawn there; otherwise, it's impossible to maintain civil intellectual discussion.

I did overreach when i said I hated you; I guess I was going for a bit of rhetorical punch.


Apology accepted, I think....


I wouldn't read to much into it. If I were to start hating people, I'd hate them for their ideologies and yours would be high on the list.


Amazing you know so much about me from one sentence /sarcasm.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#676 - 2013-07-01 21:11:23 UTC
pls no girls in eve. girls are scary.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#677 - 2013-07-01 21:24:32 UTC
Is it not at all possible that this type of gameplay is not attractive to the majority of women?

Other male dominated hobbies:

Sports
Hunting
Survival
Fishing
Driving

Just because there is not a 50/50 split doesnt mean its broken and a disproportionate amount of advertising money needs to be spent on 1 demographic.
Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#678 - 2013-07-02 10:01:31 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:
Is it not at all possible that this type of gameplay is not attractive to the majority of women?

Other male dominated hobbies:

Sports
Hunting
Survival
Fishing
Driving

Just because there is not a 50/50 split doesnt mean its broken and a disproportionate amount of advertising money needs to be spent on 1 demographic.


I giggle because, aside from hunting, I'm a gun nut and a trained rifle instructor with the NRA P Women are actually better shooters than men. Twisted

I also like fishing and other outdoors sports. White water rafting is a personal fav.

So....I don't think all those are male dominated very much anymore.

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#679 - 2013-07-02 10:18:33 UTC
Naburi NasNaburi wrote:
Making grown men cry juicy tears.. great motivation - least for me *hides*

that not female-specific Pirate
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#680 - 2013-07-02 10:21:38 UTC
integrate Amazon wishlists into the Eve Client and you'll get moar girls


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