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EVE: Android / iPhone / Windows Mobile edition!

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Kashada Kumato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-20 12:09:13 UTC
I just had an idea, probably not a unique one but i felt i had to get it down somewhere.

I was thinking about aura for android and how useful but limited it is, what would be far more impressive would be being able to interact with chat and emails receiving and sending messages to your friends.

I then thought how epic it would be being able to PLAY eve on a tablet or probably larger screened phone but i doubt any phone or tablet could handle it just yet graphics wise.

Then the idea hit me.. a mobile edition wouldn't NEED graphics!. most if the important information could be represented as the overview and rather than rendering ships just render a small icon. then add a space backdrop, and you can play the game with no real graphics power just a lot of menus.

obviously most combat would be harder but not impossible if sufficiently practised.

Where the system would be most useful would be for haulers, miners, researchers, traders, manufacturers, and even just CEO's that want to check in regularly.

Using the new login system it should be easy integrating the various mobile OS's as from my understanding the system was redesigned to act as a PC/PS3 bridge as well as being able to handle other systems in the future or i could have misread.

Even if the initial version allowed you to log in ONLY if your character is docked and can only work from that station it would make things a lot easier for people.

ONE THING that i believe should be important is not to allow trial accounts access at least at first.

Let me know what you think.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#2 - 2013-06-20 12:14:48 UTC
I think the most depressing part about this post is that it's completely true: You don't actually need graphics at all in order to play EVE.
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#3 - 2013-06-20 15:38:48 UTC
Yeah. It probably would not be too hard to set up a functional GUI on a smartphone----the one I just got has more power than the laptop I play on, though I suppose it's graphics would not stand up. (mental note, look into the cost of a new computer ASAP).

Even if it's inflight systems and display were limited (I'm not suggesting making a GUI you would want to engage in combat in, though is should be possible with this being EVE and all) you could surely set up a nice station GUI to allow for ship fitting, skills, marketing, etc..
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#4 - 2013-06-20 16:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tchulen
I was under the impression that CCP had this slated as something they were looking at doing. I can't remember where I read it though so I can't give references from CCP.

However, some reading material for you:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=121273
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3114095
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2610913
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2492153
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1787463
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1660067
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1456661

and I got bored after reading the titles on the first page and a half of results from the search "tablet". I have a low attention span.

But yeah, there appears to be at least some support for your idea Lol

Well, the idea you and lots of other people have had Blink

EDIT - I don't think letting people undock on a tablet client would be good though. Tablets are generally used on mobile or wi-fi connections and aren't exactly stable. For web browsing this isn't a problem. For a client which you can do anything you can docked it isn't a problem. If you're intending to get into a space battle it could be. Whilst you might say "but I'd only use it on a stable wi-fi connection" that doesn't mean the other 299,999 players will and CCP could well be inundated with petitions for lost ships. Just food for thought. I like the idea though.
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
#5 - 2013-06-20 17:59:20 UTC
Make it station only ( and screw the W-space players )

--or--

Only allow access to the market / skill / social parts of the game.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#6 - 2013-06-20 18:34:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Tchulen wrote:

EDIT - I don't think letting people undock on a tablet client would be good though. Tablets are generally used on mobile or wi-fi connections and aren't exactly stable. For web browsing this isn't a problem. For a client which you can do anything you can docked it isn't a problem. If you're intending to get into a space battle it could be. Whilst you might say "but I'd only use it on a stable wi-fi connection" that doesn't mean the other 299,999 players will and CCP could well be inundated with petitions for lost ships. Just food for thought. I like the idea though.


Eve is suprisingly playable on poor links atleast as far as highsec and casual PVE content go. I had a week once where the only internet I had access to was a 3Kbyte/s GSM connection with 2-3+ second latency that would flake out 2-3 times an hour but it was still possible to get around in highsec fine even do missions in a disposable ship, market would take 10-30 seconds to appear but wasn't too bad to use after that. No way I'd have tried any PVP tho.

EDIT: Theres nothing really in eve that couldn't be made to work with playable performance on high end smartphones and any semi decent tablet if you were coding it from scratch... however it would require an immense amount of effort this late in the day recoding huge amounts of code to make it efficient enough to run on those kind of devices based on the current client.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#7 - 2013-06-20 18:59:47 UTC
I play EVE on a tablet already.

Microsoft Surface Pro, 128Gb edition.

(I picked this up instead of replacing my current laptop, to use instead of my laptop under specific circumstances)

Now, I must explain for those not aware, that this tablet is in every real sense a fully functional laptop as far as what it can run.
It is not locked down like the RT version to only microsoft items or things in the windows store.

I can and do dual box 2 clients at once on this, and it is no more difficult than any other laptop to play on.
Just smaller.

For those attempting this, I would suggest dropping the local resolution to 1600 by 900. Same aspect ratio as the default 1920 by 1080, but easier on the eyes, and less icon upsizing to deal with.

If you use the fkeys on the eve client, I would suggest either remapping these for use with the keyboard covers, or else attaching a normal keyboard by USB or bluetooth.

I also picked up a bluetooth mouse, since I am more comfortable with that than the touch screen.
(Yes, you can play eve by touch screen, just takes practice tapping exactly the right spot.)
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#8 - 2013-06-21 09:28:14 UTC
I take my edit back in that case. I didn't realise people were already using tablets to play eve.

+1 for the idea.
Janna Windforce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-21 11:42:33 UTC
Playing on tablet will never be the full-time experience as on real gaming rig.
But I support the idea of some phone app at least capable of marketeering + chatting with ingame buddies, with pager function (aka CALL TO ARMS DUDE!). Updating the skill queue via phone is up for discussion I guess, as much as I'd like it, I see the points behind not being able to just play Skill Training Online without ever logging in.
There is really no need to dive into tryhard and fit EVE engine on mobile phone, you can already play on tablets.
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-21 13:55:42 UTC
But then youll have problems playing the spilling can game no?....
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-06-21 15:41:15 UTC
A Station Services only app would be nice, but Aura for Android does just fine.