EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone has any neat little tactics or tricks to gaining Security Status in Low Sec that might be helpful for me to know or understand better?

The Situation I found is that after playing the game for a while, I have found that Low Sec is probably the most awesome place in the game, and the "fun factor" has increased 10x since I left High Sec. The problem is that I still like to go to the trading hubs and shop (until I get an alt trained to haul me down stuff). After being down in LowSec and realizing that 4 kills on someone drops your Security Status from a +0.3 to a – 1.0, I have come to understand that it won't be too much longer before I may not even be able to access a lot of these areas.

Now, I am not complaining about getting lowered on Sec Status, this is the life I have chosen to take and I find it exciting, but if 4 ships drops your status by a factor of 1.3 (about 0.3 a kill or so?) and killing 50-60 NPCs raises your status by around .3 even with Fast Talk to lvlIII, then I feel there is some unbalance between having to blow up NPCs in low sec to raise status vs. finding other players who may not like you. (Granted I may attack first, but I'd rather be first than last.) I also do understand that the new Security Tag feature will raise your status 0.5 for each tag but I found this to not be working as it may have been intended, in my personal opinion?:

1) I can never find them because everyone is out hunting for them
2) even if I find one, it may be the wrong tag for my status, and
3) if I do find the right tag, I have to travel several jumps to the nearest Sec. Station which has a bit of a risk factor.

So, I believe killing NPCs may be the best approach for me to take? I just assumed perhaps there may be a few little tricks in terms of attacking NPCs that may be helpful to someone who wants to try and stay above a -2.0, but still enjoy the fun that is in Low Sec?

Again, I am not arguing about why I am being lowered, I am OK with being lowered. I am just simply seeking some advice on the proper way to target NPCs or other helpful tactics that may yield me a little better return on Sec. Status increases? Aside from training up fast talk. (Although I do think it’s a little harsh to be hit so hard on an aspect of the game that may be enjoyable to some.)


Thank you.

really? I thought I read somewhere that there was 45 stations or something? When I search for a station, I find some around but they are a few systems away. I have never been to one that I know of, what am I looking for if there are more around?

I know I take a .2 or .3 hit when I blow a ship, i don't mind that a bit, but I just want to have a quick/faster way to make it up to Concord, is all :)

1 lvl of gallente indy gets you the itty 5. Dont bother with your sec status. Just let a throw away alt on the same acount do your hauling

This.

If you prefer not to grind for sec/ buy sec back, and don't mind operating solely in low/null, just use a same account hauler alt. Should take less than a day of training so get a rigged hauler alt that is capable of bring you battlecruisers (rigging the haulers may require skills, get a friend/corpmate/allymate to do it if your main and alt don't have the skills).

I don't fully understand the whole security status thing either. What makes it rise or fall? What pilots can I attack on site without having to worry about losing status? Is it wise to wait until you are attacked first?

This has sorta been covered, but not actually listed out explicitly. So, your options are roughly:

1: Juggle your sec status on your main:
-- Kill NPC pirates regularly (biggest one you can find in the system, cooldown on getting rep in a given system cycles every 20 min)
-- Train up the Fast Talk skill
-- Avoid podding people (pods cost you more Sec status than ship kills)
UPSIDE: Free access to high sec without worries (well, compared to low)
DOWNSIDE: Lots of work to maintain, can't be done through PvP

2: A same-account alt to go back and forth for you
-- Roll alt, train for the (Gallente) Iteron V
-- Set your base of operations in low sec near to a trade hub, one jump from the high-sec divide (minimizes alt exposure to pirates)
UPSIDE: Plausible deniability, Low effort to maintain
DOWNSIDE: Limited cargo capacity on the hauler (bringing BCs and stuff like jump fuel out will be a bit painful/tedious)

3: Just buy stuff in low-sec
-- Shrug
-- Say "**** it"
-- Just buy and sell in low-sec and NPC 0.0
UPSIDE: Not complicated
DOWNSIDE: Requires decent isk income, flying around to collect all your crap from everywhere can drag a bit

4: Build a PoS, do your own manufacturing
-- Train some industry skills to build stuff, buy some BPOs
-- Look up PoSes using google/evelopedia
-- Do that
UPSIDE: Actually moderately efficient in terms of effort and isk
DOWNSIDE: Requires fuel (may need that alt from plan 2), upkeep, learning things

5: Move all the way out to NPC 0.0
-- Live in a station, basically like in high-sec
UPSIDE: AWESOME
DOWNSIDE: DANGER

Side note:
I guess I can see why it is a harder hit for Pods, seeing how if you lock a pod, you are doing it for a purpose :) so that one I can understand.

I do however, really like shooting them and mounting them on the wall in my Captain's quarters.

Congrats OP, this was the first post where you didn't go out of the way to stress that you're OK with losing sec status but *not* whining about it

Could you explain a fellow noob what's needed to go down to low-sec and find some targets? I'm assuming you're doing this solo and in a frigate? Who exactly are the targets? Explorers? Miners?

The sec status penalty is more severe than the gain, because otherwise you'd find a lot more career pirates in hisec suiciding newbies, miners etc for lulz.

That said, the ways to get around it are myriad.

Once you go flashy -10 you won't look back

Keep in mind that 99% of the -10 players you will encounter have a clandestine high sec alt(s) making money for them. Although fun, PVP seldom makes for a valid income. As your toon grows and you fly bigger, more expensive ships money will become an issue unless you decide to throw real money through plexing at it. Joining a good low or null corp that provides money making opportunities in that space can also be a solution for the money problem. Making friends and building trust can be a hard thing to do though if you are going around making enemies out of everyone so think about the future a bit as well when selecting victims :).

Fly Hard o/