EVE New Citizens Q&A

You should probably stay away from extremely expensive implant sets for now, then.




You should definitely stay away from extremely expensive implant sets, then.



Er... there's pretty big disparity in the pricepoints for an average procurer fit and an average ishtar fit, but either one will only cost you a fraction of the price of even a low-grade set of pirate implants.



Both of those sets are wasted on anything other than PvP - especially the slave set, as it augments armor buffer, and you really need an active armor tank for PvE. There are some sort of edge-case exceptions to this, like Incursions, where you would be relying on remote reps, and a little extra buffer would give the guardian pilots extra time to rep you but.... yeah, probably not worth it.

The crystal implants can see some use in PvE since it augments active shield tanking, but it's a gross waste of money, given the ease of tanking most PvE content.

You should probably get a set of basic +3s and leave it at that for now. This is one of those things where, if you have to ask which you should use, you shouldn't use either.

Those sets are only really worth it on super expensive ships, like Capitals, and even even then I would stick to Low Grade versions. With Supers they become interesting, where you want to sqeeze every EHP out of it.

That said, The Mining Barges really don't have any benefit from the sets. The actual bonus is really small. The Ishtar MIGHT have use of a Low Grade Slave set, but I advise agaist it. But hey, it's your ISK.

OP... I would stay away from implants for the time being if I were you.

Sure you won't train as fast or gain those sexy bonuses that pirate implant sets give you... but until you learn how to quickly get your pod out of a dangerous situation (i.e. your ships is blown up by pirates/outlaws/gankers) it'd be better to keep your clone cheap(-ish).

+3 implants to whatever you're training at the moment



+3 implants in all skill slots, plus the other five slots dedicated to various 1% to 3% bonuses



This is literally the only thing you've mentioned where even a 100M SP character would consider anything more expensive than standard +4s in the skill slots. Because you'll never be podded in high sec unless you really, really screw up.

Generally speaking, in any situation where being podded is even remotely feasible you go with the cheapest implants you actually need to succeed in your task. Slaves and so on are for people that are really into PvP and have vital fleet roles where a few % one way or the other will sometimes actually be the difference between victory and defeat. Dealing with gankers and shooting rocks has a lot more leeway than the bonuses granted by the sets.

It sound like I should just stay away from implants all together.

There are some useful, cheaper, implants you can plug in.

Cybernetics 4 should be enough for most things, you may decide you want 5 for the best hardwiring later (when your more space-rich)

Attribute Enhancers - Level 4 (Full Set of 5 will cost about 100m), or Level 3 (Full Set of 5 will cost about 50m)

Hardwirings - Which ones you use will depend on exactly what your doing in eve
the +3% effect ones aren't terribly expensive, and it's fairly easy to build a set that boosts tanking or your main weapon system of choice.

If your going to use Implants & Hardwirings, train Infomorph Psychology and create a Jump Clone before you try PvP again.
An empty clone is much cheaper to lose when your podded.

No. +2 or +3 attribute implants are always useful. Just stay away from multi-billion ISK implant sets. If you can't afford to fit a Procurer, you certainly can't afford a 2 billion ISK implant set.

As for the Pirate Implants, in time you can collect close to a full set of them just by doing exploration. The Commander NPC's will randomly drop various types associated with their particular Faction.

As with all things, it will take a while to do that. Of course it depends on the amount of time invested along with some strategy and lot's of luck.

Well, it use to be like that. Not so sure anymore due to the new expansion changes.



DMC


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Attribute Implants and Hardwirings are definitely a very good goal right now, especially the Attribute Implants. Later when you do get Pirate Implants, best to install them in different Jump Clones and keep main clone with high level Attribute Implants for fast skill training. Also always keep an empty / low cost clone available for those really high risk situations.

Don't forget, there's a 24hr period between clone jumps. If podded in your empty / low cost Jump Clone, your Medical Clone becomes your main clone and you'll need to upgrade a new replacement Medical Clone. Your original main clone, the one with the high level expensive implants, now becomes a Jump Clone. To get back into that clone will require you to do another jump.

Course if you're space rich and lazy or very experienced with top skills and equipment, you can just forget about clone jumping and do everything in your expensive high level main clone.

Good luck to you.

do moar PVE and complete the storyline for free +3 / +4s, its the best you can get for a month old char.

There are a number of NPC corporations which offer Medical services at their various respective stations. You need to attain 8.0 standings with these corporations to purchase a clone contract with that particular corp. These standings are (generally, exceptions exist) acquired via running missions of one variety or another for said NPC corp.

If you don't wish to earn the standings yourself for jump clone related acquisition rights, you can join a player corp which has suitable standings to lend you credibility with the NPC's. You join such a corp for a day or two, get your clones and then leave corp. EA / Estel Arador Corp services comes to mind off hand, yet there may be other corps who can help you with this.

Finally, in usually uncommon situations you can find people who own Rorquals who're happy to help people set up free clones due to the Clone Vat bay held within a Rorqual, in lowsec.

With regard to implants as a new pilot, look at +3/+4 pairs relative to your training plan. All you really need are 2 attribute implants. Plugging in a set of 5 won't matter as skills being trained only rely on 2 attributes. If you want to improve your actual skill values a bit early on, - look at the 3% hardwirings. For a new pilot *most* of the 5% skill hardwirings are quite costly.