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What's the difference between Memetic Algorithm Bank and Emission Scope Sharpener ???
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Bart33k
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-12 10:11:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bart33k
I'm thinking about fitting some of those into my explo cheetah fit but i can't decide which one of those to use. Any difference i've noticed it's the market price. What they exactly do? Which would be better to use on data sites and which one would be better for relic sites?
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
#2 - 2013-06-12 10:12:34 UTC
Bart33k wrote:
I'm thinking about fitting some of those into my explo cheetah fit but i can't decide which one of those to use. Any difference i've noticed it's the market price. What they exactly do?


One's for data site (hacking), one's for relic site (analyzer)
Amanda Chelian
#3 - 2013-06-12 10:15:00 UTC
I'm not even sure if those rig effects do anything with the revamped exploration mechanics. Seems everything was switched to virus strength and there were even new implants for it.
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
#4 - 2013-06-12 10:25:04 UTC
They effect Virus cog... whatever it is.
Bart33k
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-12 10:33:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Bart33k
Anna Djan wrote:
They effect Virus cog... whatever it is.

I know that there is something new in the game which is virus coherence and strenght. I've read about their mechanics, I know how they suppose to work, I just don't know how it looks like in practice - I haven't played since Odyssey premiere and I don't know which one (coherence or strenght) is more complicated to break in. I don't know which one of them is bigger trouble maker for explorers to break in. Anyone got his own experience in that matter?
Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
#6 - 2013-06-12 10:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Anna Djan wrote:
They effect Virus cog... whatever it is.


Virus Coherence. +10 for each of those rigs. So you do have 10 "Lifepoints" more in the minigame at the start I guess. Not much, but in the end, everything counts. Additional Virus Strength through Rigs would be much more useful, but maybe a little bit overpowered, too.

A little excurse on this.
If you start with a Virus Coherence of 100 and a Virus Strength of 20, you do have 2000 Virus "points" total (Coherence*Strength).
If you then attack a Firewall which has 40 Coherence (Life Points) and 10 Strength, you need 40*10=400 "points" to kill it.
If it has 20 Strength though, you need 40*20 = 800 "points" to get rid of it, leaving you with 1200 "points" or a Coherence of 60.

You don't loose your Strenght, you only loose Coherence for fighting stuff inside the minigame.
But there are things which can decrease your Strenght, called Virus Surpressors.
Bart33k
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-12 10:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Bart33k
Saheed Cha'chris'ra wrote:
Anna Djan wrote:
They effect Virus cog... whatever it is.


Virus Coherence. +10 for each of those rigs. So you do have 10 "Lifepoints" more in the minigame at the start I guess. Not much, but in the end, everything counts. Additional Virus Strength through Rigs would be much more useful, but maybe a little bit overpowered, too.

A little excurse on this.
If you start with a Virus Coherence of 100 and a Virus Strength of 20, you do have 2000 Virus "points" total (Coherence*Strength).
If you then attack a Firewall which has 40 Coherence (Life Points) and 10 Strength, you need 40*10=400 "points" to kill it.
If it has 20 Strength though, you need 40*20 = 800 "points" to get rid of it, leaving you with 1200 "points" or a Coherence of 60.

You don't loose your Strenght, you only loose Coherence for fighting stuff inside the minigame.
But there are things which can decrease your Strenght, called Virus Surpressors.

Everything's clear now. You're THE BOSS. Thanks. This "You don't loose your Strenght, you only loose Coherence for fighting stuff inside the minigame." resolve my doubts. I didn't know that this two combine themselves for this mini hacking game, thought they have to be breaked separetly.

One more thing - how the base of our starting virus strenght and coherence are calculated? (let's say this 100 and 20 as in your above example).
Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
#8 - 2013-06-12 10:57:23 UTC
No problem. Some Dev said not long ago that they are gonna fixing the rigs, so its more clear what they are doing.
There are still access-chance boni on those rigs, they are gonna fix it. Same goes for some implants.
Syerny
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-12 11:07:56 UTC
What I don't understand is what does access % even do? You start the mini game no matter the %, so what role does it play?
Bart33k
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-12 12:22:01 UTC
Another thing is which set of modules (2 or 3) would be better for survival during exploration - 2 or 3 Warp Stabilizers or 2 or 3 Inertial Stabilizers?