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so, checked the vids. its Carbon, Data Sheets and Hydrogen Batteries which werent in scan result but dropped from cans.

And a completely different matter CCP, why do you put T1 salvage crap into loot tables? Seriously, noone cares about T1 salvage since the introduction of the Noctis it has become totally worthless.

Are we absolutely sure that is still the case now on TQ as that doesn't appear to be how it's been on SiSi?

Ok so i tried some of these on TQ today and ran into a small problem.


In my cov ops frigs if i try to collect the cans while moving the minin tractor beam slingshots the can past my ship and it takes twice as long to loot meaning i miss a whole bunch of stuff in the site that despawns as i'm chasing this can about.

Perhaps increase the speed of the mini tractor beam so if your in a fast ship your not penalised for clicking on the items.

Been like that for me on Sisi. Someone said it always was like that. So i assume its still the case unless the've changed it in one of the recent updates.

TLDR:

+ scanning down the sites is way more comfortable

negative:

- mini-game doesn't add variety, it gets monotone like just letting a mod run a cycle - long-term motivation/fun meh
- scattering...? why? let's make it simple, survey how many sites will be done by a team of explorers - my guess, you can count them on one hand in the whole community
- a clear distinction between the different kind of cans and what they contain would be more useful
- completed cans only show up "touched" (darkened) on overview not on the actual HUD
- 50 km between cans, why?
- the sites look horrible and make me want to kill myself due to eye cancer

TL;DR - Love the hacking minigame, no complaints!

Just did my first hacking site today in nullsec, and I really liked it. I have seen a lot of critical responses to the "lootsplosion," but I saw it as part of the new game that didn't exist yesterday. Sure, I didn't get every can (I was solo), but I didn't care, 'cause to me it was part of the experience of feeling like I'm actually living in space. It was also very cool to be able to go to a nullsec site, not worry about combat at all, and really get into hacking. I didn't bother to learn much about it prior, and instead decided to just learn by doing. Totally worth it, as I pulled in some decent loot, exploded other cans, and was genuinely perplexed by the defensive nodes. It was actually challenging to try to do the math and keep eyes on local/overview at the same time. I can't believe I didn't get ganked.

Also, as a wormhole resident, I cannot express enough how great the new scanning mechanics are. It was so much more efficient. I do admit, it was almost too easy, but you better not change it. You had me at "pinpoint formation."

Well done, CCP.

Still a terrible new mechanism. The game is not fun. I give the CCP devs who thought of this a 8/10 for trolling us.

Pretty hard to get the cans if you ask me. And if i reach them many times i have just got bad scraps and data sheets -.-"
And to make the whole system harder, bonus globes can turn into virus and raise it strength by other virus systems.
The system isnt good in my opinion.

One more note: I was really hopeful when I read you were adding labels to the cans so you can get an idea what's in them before going after them, but alas I apparently misinterpreted that. The cans spew forth with no labels, and you have to go after them first. Only when you successfully catch one with your mouse, as the pointing is hovering over it, do you see the label. As such, they're entirely useless. They give you no indication what cans to go after, you have to go after them first to get an indication of whether they're worth going after! At that point, your choice is to click it and at least get something during the next several seconds it will take you to go after another can, or not and get absolutely nothing while chasing down another can. The only thing the label does give you that moment of taunting, "Ha ha! You just wasted your last five seconds trying to click on a scrap container! Enjoy your booby prize!"

I'm sure there are many people enjoying this loot-scatter arcade mini-game, but there's a reason why I could never get past the third wave of Missile Command. Sure, when the missiles are coming down one at a time and take a minute to reach the ground, it's easy to precisely place an explosion in its path, but when you have a dozen inbounds and less than a minute to stop them, well, let's just say living in my virtual cities was not a good experience for the poor simulated citizens...

That was fine, I just played other games... it's just... EVE was always a game that never required that kind of arcade gaming skill before. This mechanic is so utterly out of place in what has prior to this been much more a thinking game than a high hand-eye coordination game. It used to be enjoyable by the kinds of people who weren't good at Missile Command... now you cannot be a successful explorer without it. The hacking mini-game is fun, but the only reward an extraordinarily frustrating experience and three cans of scrap... it ruins the whole experience, and insures there's no real profit in it compared to the time involved.

It's kinda funny -- you've managed to reverse the mechanic a lot of other games use. In other games, you enduring some difficult and frustrating challenge, but when you overcome it, you get a great reward. With the new hacking system, you get to play a fun little minigame, but when you're successful, you're "rewarded" with a difficult and frustrating experience!

Oh, and three cans of scrap...

Sorry if it's already been posted elsewhere but what about the electronics rigs that used to make hacking faster? Do they add any bonuses to the game or have they just been overlooked for now?

Thanks.