Science & Industry

I Expect that I was not the only one planning to spend most of this past weekend mining ICE before the changes go live tomorrow. Personally I am out 2500-3000 Blocks of ICE, with no way to replace them before the change. Not to mention most of my ships lost their full flight of T2 drones as well.

I know CCP will compensate us in some way for the lost game time, but this really through a wrench in my plans for the next several months. I would have had enough ICE products to fuel my POS for several months until the market stabilized. Now I am SOL.

I am just curious how many others had similar plans to mine ICE this past weekend, and how big of an impact this lost stock pile will have. If there are 100 other players with a similar set up to my own. Some would mine more, and some less, but on average, if they all lost 2500-3000 blocks worth of mining this weekend, that is a 250,000-300,000 stockpile of ICE did not get created.

This could be good or bad depending on how you look at it, But it almost seems like it could have been planed by CCP, to stop this temporary work around of the coming ICE supply nerf. If not give me the ICE I would have mined had the servers not gone down.

I wasn't going to mine ice, but I had intended to make other preparations for the expansion that are now seriously disrupted. I really wish CCP would delay releasing Oddysey for a day or two.

WOW, you take this game way way to seriously.

It is just a game, not a major crysis, unless maybe you have no life outside of EVE.

my play time is very limited, this would have been the first time in 6 months I would have spent most of my weekend online. now there is no time left. So yes I did miss out on every thing I would have collected had I been able to play this weekend. But that was not my point.

Regardless of how many ICE miners have been stocking up for the last several months, I guarantee had the servers been up almost everyone who mines ICE would have been out in full force in a big blitz one last time before Odyssey. I have over 10,000 blocks stock piled, and am adding more today, but I am still out, at least in opportunity costs 2500-3000 blocks. Not that I expect anything for that, as you say I did not actually do the work. it is like showing up for work and getting sent home because the power is out. No work no pay, although most companies would provide a little compensation just for showing up willing to work. Where I used to work you got payed 4 hours just for showing up, if you got sent home due to whether or whatever. I expect CCp will give us a very fair compensation, but i'm not the least bit worried about that.

My point was the amount of ICE that would have been mined this weekend would have been a massive stock pile. maybe not quit so big compared to the pile already hoarded, but still quite large. The crack about CCP doing it on purpose was supposed to be a joke, sorry you missed it. I admit, it was a bad joke.

But back to the point at hand, what is the impact to the market that this stock pile was never created. Haulie seems to think the impact is minimal and insignificant. It very well could be. There could be enough ICE horded to supply ICE needs in EVE for the next 8-12 months, regardless of how much more is mined. Supplemented by what is mined daily after Odyssey it could be years before prices settle based on the new supply. This weekend may have added 1 month to that. Maybe more maybe less. But either way it would have had an impact.

What will the fallout be? Will we see ICE prices drop due to the hoarded supply being so far beyond the demand that ICE will not need to be mined for the next 6 months? Don't forget that after tomorrow mining ships will pull ICE in twice as fast. With so much ICE being horded the limited supply of new ICE may be a minor factor. Who will be the big winners? The ones unloading their stock piles today while other are frantically grabbing all they can before DT? I believe there are so many stock piles that for the next 6 months the limited supply from new ICE belts will be nothing compared to the massive stock piles. So many players have hoarded so much ICE in the last few months that the fallout may crash the ICE market.

There has got to be as many opinions on this as there are stock piles of ICE. I thought it would make for a good discussion. Does anyone have an opinion of this that does not include insulting players with excessively large feet??

Yes, the person who is completely indifferent to compensation for an unplanned downtime is the one that is taking it seriously. Your logic is unassailable.

But seriously, there's no way in hell one day's worth of mining lost is going to have a measurable impact given the uptick of ice mining in the last 1-2 months.

It will probably be a long time - months, yet - before the new, limited availability of ice is even sort of felt in the market, and it's entirely possible that even then, the price is going to be down from the current, speculation-driven value.

Very little play time... and you decide to spend that time mining ice.

Okay then.

When you wait to the last minute, things can screw you. Everyone else that waited to the last minute are S.O.L. too.

You don't get any "special" compensation above and beyond everyone else.

As for your speculation, time will tell.

What I heard was someone left a window open at CCP. And a flock of rogue courier pigeons made they're way into the server room where they keep the hamsters. Resulting in mass hysteria. The conspiracy is this is always what really happens. Its a growing threat lately.

I didn't wait I have been mining for months. I do not expect any compensation, that was not the point of the thread.

The speculation was the point. Agree or disagree, what impact do you see this having? If like Haulie you think the impact will be unnoticeable, that is still valuable information.

If the existing stockpiles are so large that this lost opportunity for a final blitz on ICE mining will have no impact, than everyone expecting to capitalize on the skyrocketing price of ICE will be waiting a long time. If the stockpile is that big it is more likely to crash the price.

This is what I was training to determine when I started this thread. It was not started to complain about the lost opportunity, or a cry for compensation. The title may have been a little to much, but it is about the market impact.

I for one assumed that ICE stockpiles were excessively large and unloaded most of my stockpile. Aside from what I need for 8 months of fuel. The prices have been going down, I expect they will start really dropping soon, as more players realize that those stockpiles are not drying up any time soon. If you were hording ICE get out while the getting is still good.